Posted November 15 2014 - 11:15 AM
That makes me wonder how good Natsu would be if had a master who was better at teaching and didn't disappear most of the time. What if Ogata had decided to take him in a his disciple back then?
Thats like saying,"What would happen if the elder personally trained Kenichi into his daily routine"? Of course he would be a lot stronger 
Posted November 15 2014 - 01:23 PM
Thats like saying,"What would happen if the elder personally trained Kenichi into his daily routine"? Of course he would be a lot stronger
If Sougetsu only cared more...
I would really love to see some of the other disciples reach master class before Kenichi does and I want to know their stories.
Posted November 15 2014 - 01:48 PM
Posted November 15 2014 - 02:19 PM
Posted November 15 2014 - 03:42 PM
@Delirium Trigger Jenezad had an opening because he turned his back on Akira. Apachi can possibly counter his ultimate technique, leading to a tie, but it also possible he would just die as you stated. I feel like Agard, Ma or Akiisame would be a better match against Akira.
Agard is incredibly analytical, he's a Satsujinken martial artist and he's more likely to fight with his life on the line than Jenezad. Another thing is Agard taught Koukin to always attack during his opponent's decisive attacks. If Agard uses that strategy, as well as using a similar strategy as Jenezad, taking on the real Akira instead of the clones Agard can win. Agard could step in, use the punch he used to kill Apachi or use Yan Erawan at the same time that Akira uses his ultimate technique. If he's fast enough Agard can hit Akira before he, fatally wounds him. If not, than they both would probably die, depending on the attack Agard used.
Edited by ki0, November 15 2014 - 03:55 PM.
Posted November 15 2014 - 04:36 PM
@ It may, but it also left him open which is why he was impaled. And in comparison, Hongō successfully managed to trap legendary master Jenazad with that move.
To be fair, Apachai was impaled not because he was opened. He was impaled because he always, always to the very last, went for none-lethal hits. The last panel of Bolisud Look Mai showed that Apachai hit Agaard twice for every hits he took. It's just that Agaard caused a lot more damage because he hit vitals.
But yes, Agaard would be a much better match for Hongo because of his analytical nature. In fact the only time we ever saw Agaard losing was when he lost his cool (usually because of his brotherly love / rivalry for Apachai)
@Delirium Trigger 40 days of spinning in place would build your body up a lot, I think. The possible problem to that is spinning around may (I'm not sure) cause brain damage over time, but it certainly will improve your balance because you are more and more used to being off balanced until it became second nature. It probably conditions your inner ears up to superhuman levels too. And your internal organs will have to cope with operating while spinning like crazy, which condition them.
Imagine what ocean sickness or air sickness or car sickness feels like. Now imagine subjecting yourself to 5 times that amount of acceleration / decelleration non stop for 40 days. I'm tempted to try it out actually, not 40 days of course, but just spinning myself in place for a few minutes each day, starting slow and slowly increase speed to a reasonable level (to minimize the sudden change in acceleration that may affect the brain).
Also Sougetsu probably does care, and probably even more than he cares to admit, but I was referring to the fact that he is probably a bad communicator and teacher. Saying something like "you need to release your ki!" is completely meaningless to someone who doesn't even quite understand what ki might even mean. And it doesn't help that it seems to be a catch all term for a number of different things. Conscious control and coordination of your nerves to muscles that most human beings are not aware of seems to be one of those things. Intimidation and charisma is another. Sensing air fluctuation is yet another.
Edited by citizen_lion, November 15 2014 - 04:50 PM.
Posted November 16 2014 - 10:37 PM
That makes me wonder how good Natsu would be if had a master who was better at teaching and didn't disappear most of the time. What if Ogata had decided to take him in a his disciple back then?
I have wondered about this for so long! I mean, Natsu was in Ragnarok since the point of Ragnarok was a filtering process for those who were serious enough to want to learn legit martial arts.
Ofcourse, Hermit was one of the best and he joined because he admired Ogata and wanted to train with him. I mean Freeya said that she joined Ragnarok to get an opportunity to train with the great sage fist.
Posted November 17 2014 - 08:23 AM
Well it doesn't mean Saving fists don't use 'Killing moves', they just don't use them to kill . Effective use of martial arts does not require killing, so does killing moves. Remember the double elbow at close range, on of Kenichi's first moves. If the person did not have a strong neck they would die with that move. It was a 'killing move'. Another interpretation of killing moves is a finisher, which then I can see why they would avoid ones too powerfull. However if it was effective then they would use it.
Posted November 20 2014 - 01:34 PM
Valkyries
Ayasaki Chisato
Weapon: Tonfa
Age: 18
Birthday: January 18
Measurements: B: 88 cm, W: 60 cm, H: 81 cm
Hobbies: Tennis
Dreams for the future: Starting some kind of business with Freya-sama
Niijima's commentary: If she started a daughter company under the umbrella of Shinpaku, I'd instantly make arrangements.
******
Toyonaga Shizuru
Weapon: Naginata
Age: 18
Birthday: April 19
Measurements: B: 97cm, W: 61cm, H: 93cm
Hobbies: flower arrangement
Dreams for the future: doctor
Niijima's commentary: I'll introduce her to a good place. If she kearns there she'll even be able to revive the dead.
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Igarashi Yōko
Weapon: Sai
Age: 18
Birthday: September 26
Measurements: B: 85cm, W: 60cm, H: 82cm
Hobbies: muscle training
Dreams for the future: Continuing her family's furniture store
Niijima's commentary: Got connctions with a furniture story. It's the place that has got the perfect throne I wanted.
******
Fujimiya Ami
Weapon: iron fan
Age: 10
Birthday: July 3
Measurements: B: 98cm, W: 60cm, H: 91cm
Hobbies: Photography
Dreams for the future: A politician's secretary
Niijima's commentary: I shall use her as a foothold when I hit the world of politics.
*******
Usami Reo
Weapon: staff
Age: 18
Birthday: February 28
Measurements: B: 75cm, W: 59cm, H: 84cm
Hobbies: Skiing, swimmimg
Dreams for the future: medalist
Niijima's commentary: Try to teach Kenichi how to ski this time. He's too embarassing for me to look at...
*******
Yuuki Hibiki
Weapon: throwing chain (?)
Age: 18
Birthday: May 2
Measurements: B: 82cm, W: 58cm, H: 85cm
Hobbies: her band, bass guitar
Dreams for the future: singer & song writer
Niijima's commentary: Become Sieg's disciple and write new songs for the Shinpaku Alliance. Then we'll talk about that.
*****
Tatsumoto Yumeko
Weapon: Nunchaku
Age: 18
Birthday: October 10
Measurements: B: 92cm, W: 61cm, H: 86cm
Hobbies: Cooking, watching movies
Dreams for the future: Journalist, announcer
Niijima's commentary: I, as a momber of the newspaper club, will tell you what it takes to write a good article.
******
Aiba Yuriko
Weapon: Whip
Age: 18
Birthday: August 9
Measurements: B: 84cm, W: 62cm, H: 82cm
Hobbies: reading, and she's a fujoshi (= she likes BL (boy's love)
Dreams for the future: manga artist
Niijima's commentary: Draw a story about Tanimoto x Shirahama! Spread Shinpaku's name and kill two birds with one stone.
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Tanimoto x Shirahama BL?!?! Niijima, Tanimoto is so going to kill you.
Posted November 20 2014 - 05:04 PM
Posted November 21 2014 - 09:18 AM
Never mind, wrong one.
I was wondering what you were talking about.
Posted November 21 2014 - 12:57 PM
No wonder why Hibiki was close to...Hibiki in the Titan arc. That makes sense.
Tanimoto and Shirahama will kick his alien ass back to the planet he came from if that ever happens.
This begs for a short gaiden story: The disciples are in their last year of high school and Kenichi has just published his first novel. During the school festival Niijima promotes the hell out of his Shinpaku Alliance and tries to get everyone to either join or buy Kenichi's or one of the books he has written. "And new female members (and males who might be interested) will receive this special Tanimoto x Shirahama illustrated light novel. Follow me now!" Shirahama and Tanimoto find out about his scheme and hilarity ensues. (Of course Niijima has spread certain rumours about those two beforehand)
Posted November 21 2014 - 05:56 PM
Posted November 23 2014 - 03:48 PM
From Niijima's pages.
The Art of Evil
Rules
1. Never show your true indendity (Exception #10 "It is okay to show you demonic face")
1. Always be beautiful.
1. Have your own ideals.
1. The ones who are fooled will always lose.
1. Stay in the shadows until the end.
1. Never forget to smile.
1. Dreams aren't something you see, but something you can grant.
1. Carefully utilize your father and mother.
1. Love shall be the nourishment for ambitions.
1. Do not pick up dead bodies!
Do not pick up dead bodies!!
(*This is very important so it shall be mentioned twice)
[Niijima, why do you start every point on your list with 1.?]
Edited by Nacchi, November 23 2014 - 03:57 PM.
Posted November 24 2014 - 10:33 AM
From Niijima's pages.
The Art of Evil
Rules
1. Never show your true indendity (Exception #10 "It is okay to show you demonic face")
1. Always be beautiful.
1. Have your own ideals.
1. The ones who are fooled will always lose.
1. Stay in the shadows until the end.
1. Never forget to smile.
1. Dreams aren't something you see, but something you can grant.
1. Carefully utilize your father and mother.
1. Love shall be the nourishment for ambitions.
1. Do not pick up dead bodies!
Do not pick up dead bodies!!
(*This is very important so it shall be mentioned twice)
[Niijima, why do you start every point on your list with 1.?]
I have seen this somewhere before....
Posted November 24 2014 - 01:33 PM
I have seen this somewhere before....
Leave it to Niijima to plagiarize from others and pass it off as his own work.
Posted November 25 2014 - 11:14 AM
@Delirium Trigger 40 days of spinning in place would build your body up a lot, I think. The possible problem to that is spinning around may (I'm not sure) cause brain damage over time, but it certainly will improve your balance because you are more and more used to being off balanced until it became second nature. It probably conditions your inner ears up to superhuman levels too. And your internal organs will have to cope with operating while spinning like crazy, which condition them.
Imagine what ocean sickness or air sickness or car sickness feels like. Now imagine subjecting yourself to 5 times that amount of acceleration / decelleration non stop for 40 days. I'm tempted to try it out actually, not 40 days of course, but just spinning myself in place for a few minutes each day, starting slow and slowly increase speed to a reasonable level (to minimize the sudden change in acceleration that may affect the brain).
It does not mean that he started as fast as we saw him, or that he remains at that speed. He most likely built an unconscience spin, but needed to slow down to eat, drink, live, or excrete(ewwww~~~ the thought).
Posted November 26 2014 - 02:03 PM
Kouryuu High School Girl Popularity Panking
Niijima evalutated the data he has collected for all over 400 female students at Kouryuu High and tells us how "our" girls are ranked.
#1 Miu Fuurinji
Even if she's being chased by Renka, her top postition is fixed. If you counted in the ones who have given up on her she would be even more popular.
#2 Renka Ma
The assault girl fom China. She was climbig up in popularity ever since she transferred here! Her positive and cheerful personality seems to be the biggest reason.
#3 Rachel Stanley
The blonde intruder from the West. She's an object of worship for those who long for the other world, but if you talk to her you might be surprised about how friendly she is.
#4 Chikage Kushinada
Her popularity with "big friends" crosses school borders. Students from other schools have spotted her and come here with their cameras.
#5 Kisara Nanjou
Actually, she secretly has many fans, but so far there hasn't been anyone strng enough to confess to her, as they are faced with Ukita's resentment.
#6 Kyouko Ono
The only teacher who made it into the ranking. Because of her airheaded way of speech and coduct she is ranked as #1 of girls one wants to protect.
#7 Chihiro Takashima
She was top rank until Mui transferred to our school. After that she suffered from a sharp drop, because she bullied Miu. She is in the process of rising again after mending their relationship.
#8 Makoto Himeno
Some boys are her passinonate fans, but she is unaware of the fact.
#9 Yuuka Izumi
The dark horse. Secretly she isn't only popolar with those who seek her out for friendship, but also as a candidate for marriage.
#Extra: Kaoru Shiratori
She is not included in the ranking. They thought she was a boy (*She is not a student at our school, but she was included in the Kouryuu High ranking for the sake of her hanging around here so much)
Posted November 29 2014 - 09:20 AM
I tried my hand at the Rypuzanpaku map. If someone fixes my typos, awkward grammar and horrible photoshop job, we could upload it to the wiki.
Japanse version for those who want it.
