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[Nacchi]

Well if their so extremely distinct right. I mean I see the same boobs and muscles on every character except Akisame who was copied by Saiga and Senzu from what I can see(those two are acceptable actually). A style unique to one character is given to another and all we see is the first character. Sorry man, not all manga's can be judged the same.

Slightly OT since this is a Tokiwa thread. and lengthy answer (Maybe we should open a new thread for this topic)
 
It was more meant in a way that "it could have been worse". The female characters certainly only have the types "flat as a board" and "wtf are those real!?" with a few side characters that are somewhere in the middle between those two types.
 
But I think the male hcaratcers have a wider variety. it is true that most of them have some kind of muscular built going on, since they are all martial artist I still think that there is enough diversity amongst them. If you look closely I think you can notice that Akisame has a slightly different bult from Saiga/Senzui (those two are really similar).
The amount of bulk varies even for the heavily muscular characters (Sakaki/Apachai) and you still have their facial features and other traits to tell them apart.
And then there are

• very thin guys (Lugh, Kagerou)
• Frail old men (Freya's grandfather)
• regular weaklings (Niijima and most of his underlings)
• middle aged men that sometimes seem to have a bit a belly (Inspector Honmaki, Kenichi's father)
• the slightly chubby (Ukita)
• fat massive (Thor)
• just fat (Meatman)
• Kensei Ma
• and probably other characters I forgot about

And even when you compare the disciples who are all teenage boys, I can see differences as well as similarities. Just compare Kenichi with Kokin/Tanimoto with Ethan.
 
Overall I'm okay with the different types in this manga. Sure, there could be more, but they are not so similar that I can't tell anymore who's who.
 
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Back on topic. I'm currenty trying to find out where the author got the pink-haired girl's name from. It's only written in kana (no kanji) りいん, which is pronounced Riin. But all official illustrations that have her name written out in the ROman alphabet have her name as "Rein".
 
So far I have found the English word "rein" as in the things you need to ride a horse. But it's not punounced anything like "riin"
 
The German "rein" an adjective meaning pure/clean/immaculate. But that one isn't pronounced riin either.
 
Japanese 吏員 = an official (person). Could it be that this is meant to be a title rather than a name?

 

Or is it something Matsuena made up? I hope we eventually get an explanation of some kind.

 

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The Yokai dictionary really helps with understanding bits about this story. Now I know where to look when Kanata announces the name of some new monster/phenomena.

 

So far we've had Tenjō-name, Tenka, Azuki-togi, and that strange monster hand where I've yet to find out what it is called.

[Combatmaster1o3]

Slightly OT since this is a Tokiwa thread. and lengthy answer (Maybe we should open a new thread for this topic)
 
It was more meant in a way that "it could have been worse". The female characters certainly only have the types "flat as a board" and "wtf are those real!?" with a few side characters that are somewhere in the middle between those two types.
 
But I think the male hcaratcers have a wider variety. it is true that most of them have some kind of muscular built going on, since they are all martial artist I still think that there is enough diversity amongst them. If you look closely I think you can notice that Akisame has a slightly different bult from Saiga/Senzui (those two are really similar).
The amount of bulk varies even for the heavily muscular characters (Sakaki/Apachai) and you still have their facial features and other traits to tell them apart.
And then there are

• very thin guys (Lugh, Kagerou)
• Frail old men (Freya's grandfather)
• regular weaklings (Niijima and most of his underlings)
• middle aged men that sometimes seem to have a bit a belly (Inspector Honmaki, Kenichi's father)
• the slightly chubby (Ukita)
• fat massive (Thor)
• just fat (Meatman)
• Kensei Ma
• and probably other characters I forgot about

And even when you compare the disciples who are all teenage boys, I can see differences as well as similarities. Just compare Kenichi with Kokin/Tanimoto with Ethan.
 
Overall I'm okay with the different types in this manga. Sure, there could be more, but they are not so similar that I can't tell anymore who's who.
 
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Back on topic. I'm currenty trying to find out where the author got the pink-haired girl's name from. It's only written in kana (no kanji) りいん, which is pronounced Riin. But all official illustrations that have her name written out in the ROman alphabet have her name as "Rein".
 
So far I have found the English word "rein" as in the things you need to ride a horse. But it's not punounced anything like "riin"
 
The German "rein" an adjective meaning pure/clean/immaculate. But that one isn't pronounced riin either.
 
Japanese 吏員 = an official (person). Could it be that this is meant to be a title rather than a name?

 

Or is it something Matsuena made up? I hope we eventually get an explanation of some kind.

 

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The Yokai dictionary really helps with understanding bits about this story. Now I know where to look when Kanata announces the name of some new monster/phenomena.

 

So far we've had Tenjō-name, Tenka, Azuki-togi, and that strange monster hand where I've yet to find out what it is called.

Well you listed unique characters, that I said had a certain style which were unique.

[Delirium Trigger]

On a completely unrelated note, anyone been reading Tokiwa Kitareri so far? Some HSDK fanatic in me hopes that this story is in the same universe as Kenichi, and there will be a huge crossover with Mikumo as the major villain.

[Nacchi]

On a completely unrelated note, anyone been reading Tokiwa Kitareri so far? Some HSDK fanatic in me hopes that this story is in the same universe as Kenichi, and there will be a huge crossover with Mikumo as the major villain.

Me.

I think there might be a slight possibility that both stories take place in the same universe.

 

• The teacher who teaches Tokiwa's class is what gives me hope. He looks exactly like Kenichi's teacher Mr. Fukujirou Yasunaga. Incidentally his name is Fukutarou Yasunaga and I've read some speculations that those two might be brothers.
   
• We have cameos of Touchuumaru and his picture scroll animal friends.
   
• The run-down school building behind Tokiwa's school looks a lot like Kouryou High.
   
• Tokiwa offers DEM III some space cola. Niijima loves this stuff.
   
• In the last chapter of HSDK you can see the name of another author above Kenichi's name on the website that lists the literature price winners: Tokiwa Kusaka. I think there's a chance that this is Tokiwa Yasaka's penname.

 

So maybe ind sme strange kind of way the belong to the same universe. After all, we've got ninja and when there are ninja there might be other martial artists.

Edited by Nacchi, April 07 2015 - 11:21 AM.

[Combatmaster1o3]

Me.

I think there might be a slight possibility that both stories take place in the same universe.

 

• The teacher who teaches Tokiwa's class is what gives me hope. He looks exactly like Kenichi's teacher Mr. Fukujirou Yasunaga. Incidentally his name is Fukutarou Yasunaga and I've read some speculations that those two might be brothers.
   
• We have cameos of Touchuumaru and his picture scroll animal friends.
   
• The run-down school building behind Tokiwa's school looks a lot like Kouryou High.
   
• Tokiwa offers DEM III some space cola. Niijima loves this stuff.
   
• In the last chapter of HSDK you can see the name of another author above Kenichi's name on the website that lists the literature price winners: Tokiwa Kusaka. I think there's a chance that this is Tokiwa Yasaka's penname.

 

So maybe ind sme strange kind of way the belong to the same universe. After all, we've got ninja and when there are ninja there might be other martial artists.

Or the are all references and cameos. Personally I don't want the universes to be the same due to the various issues with bringing totally new things to a well developed universe with solid mechanics. The whole magic thing is the equivalent to ki in this universe, a lot of questions will be brought that are going to have awkward answers or simply remain unanswered. I don't want that and neither do you.

[Nacchi]

Or the are all references and cameos. Personally I don't want the universes to be the same due to the various issues with bringing totally new things to a well developed universe with solid mechanics. The whole magic thing is the equivalent to ki in this universe, a lot of questions will be brought that are going to have awkward answers or simply remain unanswered. I don't want that and neither do you.

I agree with the part that there are most likely only cameos.

 

But maybe, just maybe, they are not and Tokiwa takes place in the same universe as Kenichi does, or at least in parrallel universes that might be connected to each other. At least in Tokiwa there might be several other universes/planes that are connected to Tokiwa's world. It's way to early to tell, since the story is only at chapter 15. Please keep in mind that the following is just me musing about possibilities and tossing together random thoughts.

 

And you are mistaken about the magic thing. It is not an equivalent to ki in Tokiwa, many charcters don't use it at all and even the magic used isn't really magic.

 

If you have a look at the main characters:

 

DEM III: a super advanced robot /artificial intelligence = no magic

 

Kanata: He's able to conjure that blade from his heart, but I don't really think it's magic, but more a secret ninja    technique that allows him to manifest his ki in the shape of a sword. I don't have the manga at hand right now, but I can go and search for an explanation later if you want (and if there is one).

 

Haruka: He is the one who uses "magic", but the magic in Tokiwa is not really what we understand as magic. There is a better explanation in the manga, but again I don't have it with me right now.

 

I think it might possibly work without being (too) awkward.

 

And Kenichi is not completely devoid of supernatural things: We have seen the ghost of Tanaka and his family; Naoki Yamamoto became friends with a family of kappa; and then there's our most beloved Haruo Niijima who is -as stated by the guidebook- half alien and half demon.

 

That means ghosts, yokai, aliens and demons do exist in Kenichi-verse.

 

And who knows, it could be that Mikumo has already turned into a yokai herself.

[Combatmaster1o3]

I agree with the part that there are most likely only cameos.

 

But maybe, just maybe, they are not and Tokiwa takes place in the same universe as Kenichi does, or at least in parrallel universes that might be connected to each other. At least in Tokiwa there might be several other universes/planes that are connected to Tokiwa's world. It's way to early to tell, since the story is only at chapter 15. Please keep in mind that the following is just me musing about possibilities and tossing together random thoughts.

 

And you are mistaken about the magic thing. It is not an equivalent to ki in Tokiwa, many charcters don't use it at all and even the magic used isn't really magic.

 

If you have a look at the main characters:

 

DEM III: a super advanced robot /artificial intelligence = no magic

 

Kanata: He's able to conjure that blade from his heart, but I don't really think it's magic, but more a secret ninja    technique that allows him to manifest his ki in the shape of a sword. I don't have the manga at hand right now, but I can go and search for an explanation later if you want (and if there is one).

 

Haruka: He is the one who uses "magic", but the magic in Tokiwa is not really what we understand as magic. There is a better explanation in the manga, but again I don't have it with me right now.

 

I think it might possibly work without being (too) awkward.

 

And Kenichi is not completely devoid of supernatural things: We have seen the ghost of Tanaka and his family; Naoki Yamamoto became friends with a family of kappa; and then there's our most beloved Haruo Niijima who is -as stated by the guidebook- half alien and half demon.

 

That means ghosts, yokai, aliens and demons do exist in Kenichi-verse.

 

And who knows, it could be that Mikumo has already turned into a yokai herself.

But DEM detected magic energy. Its a real thing that is somewhat measurable.

[Nacchi]

But DEM detected magic energy. Its a real thing that is somewhat measurable.

I had a look again and this is what I found.
 
DEM III detects a high amount of spiritual/mental/emotinal energy within Kanata in chapter 1.

 

The word he's using (精神エネルギー, seishin energy) is a bit difficult to translate. seishin by itself means something like: mind; soul; heart; spirit; intention. It appears often in therm having to do with mental or psychological conditions, but also in the meaning of spritual. The closest related word I could find was seishinryoku (精神力 = seishin + power/streangth) which means emotional strength; force of will.

However you may choose to translate that, I don't think it can be classified as magic and might be more related to what is called "ki" in Kenichi. Maybe it even is the same thing or something derived from "ki".

The overly suspicious policeman who appeared first in chapter 11 notices the high energy levels of the main characters as well. It's interesting to see that even Tokiwa and Meguru, two regular people without any powers, possess this kind of energy. DEM III however doesn't. I think it might be inherent to every living thing. Maybe live force might be another possible translation for seishin energy.

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When Haruka uses Sorcery DEM III says that "he changes his spritual enery into some unknown form of energy".
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Later, when the yokai appears he notices another from of energy that he doesn't know.
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Let's say one of these types of energy really is magic, although I'm not 100% comfortable with calling Sorcery or yokai magic, that would not make it the staple of everything in this story. As in real life energy and power can take many different forms and often one form can changed into another. To me that means magic and ki don't have to be mutually exclusive and can exist in the same universe without causing continuity problems.

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[Combatmaster1o3]

It haz something to do with sorcery, thats for sure. Tokiwa has an amazing strategic ability, Kanata is extremely pure and knightly, while Hakura uses Sorcery which is already as developed as Ki was at the end of HSDK(I am noting how it was literally unexplained)

Hey I want these to be separate stories, sue me, but I would really like it if this manga developed entirely on its own without being wonky story wise when you look back like HSDK was at times. 

 

In the picture you provided, Tokiwa has slightly more energy than the girl who I completely forgot the name to(not Aria). Also I need more female protagonists to exist and be cool(don't make it artificial!!!!) to add more character to the near characterless, stereotypical nature of the female characters introduced.

 

Back on to the note of that mysterious energy surrounding them, it may be something related to organisms, as you said, that can be distilled in different ways. We possibly could see even more uses other than sorcery and ninja soul thing. Also I would love it if they start to define some things like souls or sorcery both in there mystical ways and scientific wise(I know that they are related already via radio waves and that naturally the machine god Siegefried will also delve into it). Dem III may have also pointed out this mystical source as something already known but not fully discovered by the scientific method. 

Edited by Combatmaster1o3, April 08 2015 - 05:40 PM.

[Nacchi]

It haz something to do with sorcery, thats for sure. Tokiwa has an amazing strategic ability, Kanata is extremely pure and knightly, while Hakura uses Sorcery which is already as developed as Ki was at the end of HSDK(I am noting how it was literally unexplained)

Hey I want these to be separate stories, sue me, but I would really like it if this manga developed entirely on its own without being wonky story wise when you look back like HSDK was at times. 

 

In the picture you provided, Tokiwa has slightly more energy than the girl who I completely forgot the name to(not Aria). Also I need more female protagonists to exist and be cool(don't make it artificial!!!!) to add more character to the near characterless, stereotypical nature of the female characters introduced.

 

Back on to the note of that mysterious energy surrounding them, it may be something related to organisms, as you said, that can be distilled in different ways. We possibly could see even more uses other than sorcery and ninja soul thing. Also I would love it if they start to define some things like souls or sorcery both in there mystical ways and scientific wise(I know that they are related already via radio waves and that naturally the machine god Siegefried will also delve into it). Dem III may have also pointed out this mystical source as something already known but not fully discovered by the scientific method. 

 

I don't think you have to worry about it. I'm pretty sure they will be separate stories with the occasional cameo. But if someone wanted to write a crossover fanfiction, for example, I think it might work out.

 

And I agree that right now we are seriously lacking some explanations and the story is getting more confusing each time, whenever I think that now we've found some theme or story we could follow.

 

The newest chapter really threw me off. Chapter 15 ended with DEM attacking that supsicious fake policeman guy, whom I suspected to be a robot as well. The final caprion said:
 

 

For his friend's sake, Machina arrives!! What is the true face of the man who knows about Machina's identity?

 

I was expecting a new chapter centered about how DEM saves Tokiwa and other guy revealing who he really is.

 

However, this chapter starts with Tokiwa already saved and at home. ????? What happened to my fight? Where did suspcious guy go? Where is my explanations Matsuena teased me with? It really feels like they skipped a whole chapter and I had to check twice that I didn't miss a chapter.

 

But at least we get some more info about Rein. I still don't quite understand who or what s/he is, but at least we know how s/he met Tokiwa. And now for some reason the whole thing shifted from fighting supernatural beings and evil sorcerians to "let's save Rein from wherever s/he is stuck."

 

I think this story wns a prize for "how do I totally confuse my readers in as few chapters as possible".

 

Not sure if his publishers are rushing him through this story, possibly making him skip whole chapters, or if there is a deeper meaning behind all of this.

 

If you want to share my confusion: Chapter 15 & Chapter 16 in Japanese

Edited by Nacchi, April 11 2015 - 02:49 AM.

[Combatmaster1o3]

Thanks for teh links!!! Im limited to mangahere's translations(Well they are the only ones translating it).

 

But for the story, I think Mr.Mat might be in a little struggle. Im not sure if he knows exactly where he's going with this one. After all, Kenichi only got a little weird when yomi hit, Ragnarok ark already happened before with HSDK's previous incarnations. By trying something new he got caught up in the weekly chapter to chapter, missing out or making things happen in the spur of the moment that are awesome and intrigue us but are ultimately forgotten when he is in that mental high of manga making. Each chapter is good but is kinda poorly constructed when seen after the previous chapter. HSDK fell to that in the end(along with pressure to end the manga). I believe once he finally makes a big antagonizing character /or organization that the story would come together.

[Nacchi]

Thanks for teh links!!! Im limited to mangahere's translations(Well they are the only ones translating it).

 

But for the story, I think Mr.Mat might be in a little struggle. Im not sure if he knows exactly where he's going with this one. After all, Kenichi only got a little weird when yomi hit, Ragnarok ark already happened before with HSDK's previous incarnations. By trying something new he got caught up in the weekly chapter to chapter, missing out or making things happen in the spur of the moment that are awesome and intrigue us but are ultimately forgotten when he is in that mental high of manga making. Each chapter is good but is kinda poorly constructed when seen after the previous chapter. HSDK fell to that in the end(along with pressure to end the manga). I believe once he finally makes a big antagonizing character /or organization that the story would come together.

 I hope you are right and maybe this time we have a direction in which the story can go.

 

When DEM asks Rein how many people are able to see her/him/it, he gets a strange answer.

 

"12 bright lights, 1 person who carries weapons, 2 things without live" ... "The lightning goes through steel, hold your hands up and walk though the rock"

 

Which does not make any sense at all and Tokiwa doesn't understand it either. I'm not even sure if I understood and translated the second part correctly. Anyway, next thing she begs Tokiwa to save her and ger her out of cyberspace, before she gets sucked back into it.

 

Maybe the 12 lights refer to 12 people who are needed to do whatever they have to do before the time runs out. That means there still might be 6 people missing in this story.

 

1 person with weapons = Kanata, 2 things without life = DEM and someone else. Could be another humanoid they have yet to find, or it could be Haruka's wire man

 

I have no idea about the second part.

 

And maybe on their path to save Rein the whole story will finally make sense.

 

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Somwhow I get the feeling that this story might not be as long as Kenichi. The story seems to be much faster paced.

In chpater 16 of Kenichi Matsuena introduced Takeda and Ukita, whereas here we've already got three different fractions, some mysterious battles in the past, one girl/entity from cyberspace that speaks in riddles and has to be saved, and something thats's going to happen and the time until that happens is running out.

 

(Completely unrelated, but Rein reminds me of a cross between Miu and Princess Peach)

[Nacchi]

Chapter 17: Rein's Code

 

Once again I fail at solving riddles. What Rein said had nothing to do with the main characters, but with astrological signs. Has Matsuena been watchng the new Saint Seiya anime?

 

12 bright lights = 12 signs

1 who carries a weapon = Sagittarius

2 lifeless things = Libra & Aquarius

 

And DEM III's creator DEM II is somehow involved in this? Interesting. And I think they might have freed Rein already. At least everyone sensed a strong power entering their world. (And next chapter my hopes will be shattered and it's not Rein but someone/something else, probably Frieza)

 

I really like Haruka's and DEM III's relationship.

 

Haruka: Calm down, robot. You've been saying the same thing over and over again ever since. If you ask me you seem to have more than enough emotions.

 

DEM III: Thank you, fake magician. You are a pretty good person.

 

Haruka: It's sorcerian!!!

Edited by Nacchi, April 20 2015 - 12:31 PM.

[Combatmaster1o3]

Chapter 17: Rein's Code

 

Once again I fail at solving riddles. What Rein said had nothing to do with the main characters, but with astrological signs. Has Matsuena been watchng the new Saint Seiya anime?

 

12 bright lights = 12 signs

1 who carries a weapon = Sagittarius

2 lifeless things = Libra & Aquarius

 

And DEM III's creator DEM II is somehow involved in this? Interesting. And I think they might have freed Rein already. At least everyone sensed a strong power entering their world. (And next chapter my hopes will be shattered and it's not Rein but someone/something else, probably Frieza)

 

I really like Haruka's and DEM III's relationship.

 

Haruka: Calm down, robot. You've been saying the same thing over and over again ever since. If you ask me you seem to have more than enough emotions.

 

DEM III: Thank you, fake magician. You are a pretty good person.

 

Haruka: It's sorcerian!!!

Ah I see. I have no idea whats going on *looks down in shame*

[Nacchi]

Ah I see. I have no idea whats going on *looks down in shame*

I whished I was better at writing summaries in English. Basically they solved Rein's riddle, rushed to save her in the middle of the night, and made it just in time to free her from cyberspace before her data was deleted.
 
And it really is Rein that's going to join everyone next chapter. The raws for this week's chapter are not out yet, but volume 2 had a spoiler image on its preview page.

"And finally the heroine enters!!"

I'm betting that Tokiwa is going to hook up with her in the end, just like Kenichi and Miu did. Or he will be NTR'd by his best robot friend.

Edited by Nacchi, April 23 2015 - 12:22 PM.

[Combatmaster1o3]

I whished I was better at writing summaries in English. Basically they solved Rein's riddle, rushed to save her in the middle of the night, and made it just in time to free her from cyberspace before her data was deleted.
 
And it really is Rein that's going to join everyone next chapter. The raws for this week's chapter are not out yet, but volume 2 had a spoiler image on its preview page.


I'm betting that Tokiwa is going to hook up with her in the end, just like Kenichi and Miu did. Or he will be NTR'd by his best robot friend.

Probs. That makes a lot more sense thanks you. I wish mangahere updated their translations.

[Nacchi]

Probs. That makes a lot more sense thanks you. I wish mangahere updated their translations.

They are using Chinese scanlations that another group translates into English, which then get uploaded to mangahere. I guess one of the groups involved in this translation chain is a bit behind.

[Nacchi]

Chapter 18: The Birth of Rein

 

This time I included a txt-file with a translation. I rushed it a bit, but I hope it's still understandable and I didn't make too many mistakes. It should be okay.

 

Finally we can add the heroine to or cast. Unfortunately she has neither memories nor a character so far.

And I was wondering why Machina didn't have some kind of enemies. Well, here they are.

[Combatmaster1o3]

Chapter 18: The Birth of Rein

 

This time I included a txt-file with a translation. I rushed it a bit, but I hope it's still understandable and I didn't make too many mistakes. It should be okay.

 

Finally we can add the heroine to or cast. Unfortunately she has neither memories nor a character so far.

And I was wondering why Machina didn't have some kind of enemies. Well, here they are.

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EDIT: Those don't even feel like words to me anymore. 

Edited by Combatmaster1o3, April 25 2015 - 11:15 AM.

[Nacchi]

@Combatmaster1o3 Woah, that was a bit too much. Especially since this translations is a horrible hack job.

 

Btw, I asked the group that does Tokiwa about their progress. They are pretty busy with their other reales and haven't had time to do chapter 10 or DEM III yet.