Posted March 05 2015 - 04:59 PM
He is just not finished.... I think if in some other situation, they would be friends.
*whispers* return bro Nachi
Uh, what? I just can't come up with any resonable ideas for a fanfic right now. Besides one for a crackfic (or a very depressing one, depending on how you write it) where Kagerou's soul takes possession of Setsunamaru.
Posted March 05 2015 - 07:53 PM
Uh, what? I just can't come up with any resonable ideas for a fanfic right now. Besides one for a crackfic (or a very depressing one, depending on how you write it) where Kagerou's soul takes possession of Setsunamaru.
I don't know why but Kagerou's possetion of Setsunmaru was really funny.
Posted March 08 2015 - 06:17 PM
I wonder if Ma being a master in all Chinese martial arts means he mastered Shaolin Kung Fu and Dim Mak. It could be a very interesting story, to see Ma in his youth, travelling from one side of China to another to learn and master all Chinese styles. Who knows how many people he met.
Posted March 08 2015 - 11:34 PM
I wonder if Ma being a master in all Chinese martial arts means he mastered Shaolin Kung Fu and Dim Mak. It could be a very interesting story, to see Ma in his youth, travelling from one side of China to another to learn and master all Chinese styles. Who knows how many people he met.
I don't think he traveled as much as that was just his life. His home territory was just so massive and clearly he comes from a very rich and modern family with string cultural backrounds.
Posted June 21 2015 - 02:49 PM
I noticed this is not the fanfic idea, but the fanfic challenge thread
Can't properly read anymore.
Anyway I would have everyone move out at first since they have been evicted by the court order. I'm not sure if Akisame's and Ma's clinics are built of Ryozanpaku ground or not. If not, those two could move there and if yes, they might bargain to pay rent to the new owners or they might have to close their clinics.
In that case, Ma could move in with his uncle in Yokohama. Akisame stays with the woman he stayed with when the police was searching for them. Generella the situation looks similar now to what it was during the time when they had trouble with the police.
Just this time the Elder can't hide in a home for the elderly, because they still want him for stealing the land in the first place. So he's on the run.
And of course Miu and Kenichi can't stay there either. At first the Elder wanted to take Miu with him, but Miu and Saiga are against it, since she still has school to attaned and can't possibly run away with a wanted criminal.
Saiga can't take her either, because after he's left Yami he doesn't really have a place to stay nor does he have access to their money. Instead he comes up with the idea that he'll go and find a new home for him and Miu and in the meantime she's going to stay with Kenichi's family. (He only says so after Hayato is already out of earshot). Kenichi's parents happily agree while Honoka is not that fond of this idea.
Sakaki gets to live in some old run-down apartment he can barely afford, SHigure went back to the house she grew up in and Apachai... I don't know. Maybe he wanders the streets like a homeless kitten or he crashes at the Shinpaku headquaters.
I'm not sure where to go from there. Of course they want to live together again, but how do I get there? Does Siegfried come to their rescue and buys Ryouzanpaku or some new land for them? Does the new owner recognize that the master are actually not some brutish scary criminals that took their land and lets them live there again (for rent)? Or do they stay scattered apart?
I think I would have the Government play a role in getting them back together. The Elder or Akisame could call in their connections to the government or the government could call them, themselves (realizing Ryozanpaku's circumstances). A government official says he can provide them with a place to live, as well as a full pardon, in exchange for their assistance. He wants to protect a government representative from a highly elite team of assassins. The Gov official could provide a back story on the guy he wants them to protect. For instance, If he gets killed it's very possible Yami will gain a much stronger foothold in the government, allowing Yami to resurrect itself. The government official also wants them to gain information about the assassins and their employer.
Or
Another idea is the family that lives there, ask Ryo to complete several task, if they want to live with them. Once they completed most of their task, the owner starts to believe they are good people and lets them live there on one condition, they teach their son or daughter martial arts.
If I come up with another possible way that story can go I'll post it later.
Edited by ki0, June 21 2015 - 02:53 PM.
Posted June 26 2015 - 12:51 PM
This are some great ideas. I never thought of involving the government in this. I'd love to hear more, if you can come up woth something.
I'm sure the children would love to have Apachai as their personal babysitter.
Posted June 27 2015 - 11:28 PM
I was re-reading your old post Citizen Lion ad would love to see you continue the Apa/mike Bromance 
Damn account!!!!
Why cant I quote/embed!!!???
I would love to write a fanfic about Ogata but I don't know where to start. In fact, I am interested in what kind of parents/home life these characters have/had...
Edited by Ogata, June 27 2015 - 11:30 PM.
Posted June 28 2015 - 01:50 PM
I would love to write a fanfic about Ogata but I don't know where to start. In fact, I am interested in what kind of parents/home life these characters have/had...
I would love to write a fanfic about Ogata too. If you're going to write a fanfic about Ogata you should start with what you know IMO. From there you can speculate and brainstorm about his background. We know Ogata's ideology, his dream of a perfect world of martial arts, where all martial artist are equal. I guess you could start by brainstorming about what events, experiences and teachings lead to him developing this ideology.
This post from Nacchi might help:
I was reading a bit on the Japanese wikipedia, because I forgot, who voiced Ogata, when I stumbled about this tidbit.
It seems Issinsai is not his real name, but a honorary name related to buddhism.
If I understood that explanation correctly, names ending with 斎 (sai) were mostly given to people who secluded themselves in order to devote themselves their studies - many of them doctors or artists. This name was also often given posthumously or when someone of the emperial family/the nobility donated or contributed to a temple.
His real name is unknown.
The character itself has meanings like "purification; Buddhist food; room; worship; avoid; alike"
The fist two kanji are "one" (一) and "god; mind; soul" (神)
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Now where did he get such a name? He certainly seems to have ties to buddhism, as he's carving all those statues. I guess that would make him an artist, maybe. The "living secluded for their studies" parts fits as well. But who gave him his name? Was he once a disciple at a temple? The guidebook doesn't give any explanation about its origin or Ogata's past.
I'll see if I can find some more information about those kind of names, because I still don't quite understand how they work. (why is every text related to religion so complicated with words that are impossible to translate?)
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EDIT: I found another article that says names like Isshinsai were used as regular pennames or nicknames by artists/writers. So dis he choose his name himself after all? I can see him choosing a pseudonym for his "work" as a martial artist. And maybe he thought his real name didn't fit him anymore once he became a master.
Edited by ki0, June 28 2015 - 02:00 PM.
Posted June 30 2015 - 08:46 AM
Ogata was bullied until Middle School and he trained his heart. EDIT: I looked at the mangastream translation and it turns out they were talking about Kenichi. Here's the Mangapanda translation:
Edited by ki0, June 30 2015 - 09:00 AM.
Posted July 01 2015 - 05:16 AM
Ogata was bullied until Middle School and he trained his heart. EDIT: I looked at the mangastream translation and it turns out they were talking about Kenichi. Here's the Mangapanda translation:
Somtimes I forget how awful the mangapanda translation could be.
I would love to write a fanfic about Ogata too. If you're going to write a fanfic about Ogata you should start with what you know IMO. From there you can speculate and brainstorm about his background. We know Ogata's ideology, his dream of a perfect world of martial arts, where all martial artist are equal. I guess you could start by brainstorming about what events, experiences and teachings lead to him developing this ideology.
This post from Nacchi might help:
It's only saysing that he uses an alias, but one could investigate why he chose one. I wonder if he might be from an artisan family. It would explain his hobbies. But then there are lots of people who take up scuplting or painting just because they think it's interesting. Maybe he just needed some pastime during the time he spend in Yamigatani.
Posted December 07 2015 - 11:46 AM
what do you guys think of HSDK X Tekken Crossover fanfic?
Posted October 28 2016 - 05:20 PM
I'm thinking about creating a fight fanfic with Koukin and Sho, what you guys think? Which disciples would you most want to see fight?
Edited by ki0, October 28 2016 - 05:27 PM.
Posted October 28 2016 - 11:26 PM
Kokin & Sho is a good one. Another good one would be Rachel & Sho.
Both have deep seated psychological problems, both having a lot of talent (Rachel was revealed during the fight with Renka to be massively handicapped all the time, because her wresting style involved putting on a show while fighting, so outside of that "show fight" she does not have real practical techniques, just sheer talent & precision & brute strength).
You can also explore the interesting reason why Rachel likes Lucha Libre, perhaps it is because she feels that the style is not just for violence, but is for beauty, and so is away for her to mentally escape the ugliness of her family life.
Posted November 30 2016 - 07:50 PM
If I do write a fanfic for Rachel it will probably be between her and Koukin, although I might do one with Sho.
Posted December 02 2016 - 04:44 PM
@ Ohh, I would be interested to see how you interpret the Rachel and Koukin relationship. They are polar opposites in temperament, and don't really have much in common in terms of deep motivation & past trauma, but then that could also be the basis for a friendship / relationship. From my experience a deep friendship or relationship are usually between either two people who are really similar and understand each other deeply without trying, or two people who are very different but due to some event/circumstance, understand each other deeply...
Edited by citizen_lion, December 02 2016 - 04:44 PM.
Posted December 05 2016 - 10:22 PM
I got another idea for a Fanfic: The Lost Arts Arc
Basically the gist of it is, someone or some group (could be Ogata, Ryuto later on or someone new) decides to bring back several lost martial arts that were rumored to be the greatest of the martial arts, in these arts respective eras, through their own research. They're identity could even be the Yami/Yomi of America, or a new group. I'm thinking of the group being Shaolin or at least one of them being Shaolin. Kensei once said the 4th strongest Chinese martial arts, is Shaolin Kung fu.
So I was thinking that the motivation for this would be, to bring back Shaolin's old strength and dominate the martial arts world with it like they did in the past. After having 500 masters being beaten by one man (the elder) and dropping to the 4th strongest Chinese martial art, a shaolin genius, becomes motivated to bring back the lost arts of Shaolin. His reasoning being that Shaolin became weak because it lost it's most powerful martial arts. I'll probably create a character in the create a character thread for this.
Posted December 06 2016 - 02:04 AM
@ also like this idea. A new character would be good too, but I figure having some of the old crew playing a role would be important to tie it into the HSDK lore. Maybe this Shaolin genius would be the next rival for Hermit. I am most interested in how you would frame the personality and motivation of the new character. As for the master guiding this young genius. I can see it being Ogata, since Ogata has no boundary of style or belief, so there's no reason why after a number of years his shift would be in shaolin (after all it is a very ancient art).
Posted December 07 2016 - 05:02 PM
@citizen_lion Thanks for the advice, it's much appreciated. I'll be honest, I'm not very good at coming up with personalities and motivations. What I always have in the front of my mind is, "I want to create something interesting." Often times I'm not sure exactly how to go about it. I read a bit from articles on writing, I know that setting and background can have a rather large influence on personality and motivations. I don't know how a certain environment would shape someone into who they are today and that's probably why I always draw a blank when it comes to personalities and motivations. So do you have any advice about learning how to create interesting characters? Or any links to websites, on how to create interesting character's personalities and backgrounds?
As for the Shaolin character, I like your suggestions. Nothing is set in stone, but I like the idea of him being Ogata's disciple and Hermit's rival.
Edited by ki0, December 07 2016 - 05:10 PM.
Posted December 13 2016 - 07:24 PM
@ For me, creating convincing personalities and motivations is a side effect of the really useful life skill of being aware of your own emotions and motivations, and being able to observe the emotions and perceive the motivations of others.
This skill is learned mostly by practice and life experience. Some people I have met seem to be naturally talented at this, but the rest of us will have to practice practice practice!
A good exercise is to take moments off during the day and do nothing, just walk around for 10-20 minutes or close your eyes in somewhere private, and reexamine everything that happened during the day. Try to be aware of and analyze your emotions. You may feel that some of that emotions are weird, disturbing, shameful, etc. No need to feel that way. They are just emotions, thought patterns formed by a logical part of your mind and modified by your hormones, which may be related to the food you eat, your age, etc. None of this is inherently good or bad, what's good or bad is how we ultimately act.
But all of this emotions and motivations are useful to understand...
Over time you will begin to be aware of others' emotions and motivations too. The skill for writing good fictional characters will then come naturally if you like writing fiction.
Edited by citizen_lion, December 13 2016 - 07:26 PM.
