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[Berrick]

This threads purpose is to come up with different ideas and bounce off each other's ideas so we can come up with our own individual or group fanfics. Constructive criticism is welcome.

 

I have 3 ideas for a fanfic:

 

1. The first is something that would take place after the end of HSDK. It would be like a sequel. The story would be something like this: A civil war in Yami starts. I'm not sure why it starts yet, but I got a few ideas. One  idea is a few masters join and infiltrate Yami (maybe their former Katsujinken masters who are out to destroy Yami), killing a few master's while framing others. Maybe they frame the Yami of the U.S.A. for deaths of the Yami in Japan.  Or the civil war starts due to a change in leadership and a radical change in ideals.

 

- Another idea is kenichi and crew or Yami fighting super solders.

 

- Or another martial arts organization that's different from Yami, rises from the darkness to become the new dominant power. 

 

 

2. The next idea I have for a fanfic is a prequel dating back 50, 100, or 200 years before the start of HSDK. With this we could see a bunch of new interesting characters, as well as the start of things for the Elder and Mikumo.

 

3. The last idea is for an alternate universe. I'm not sure how I would go about it, but I do know I want Ryuto to fight Sho and Ragnarok to fight Yomi.

Edited by ki0, January 08 2015 - 05:55 PM.

[citizen_lion]

20 years after the end of HSDK. The world is at peace, Kenichi is the new Elder. Miu has taken to wearing a Kimono now that she looks suspiciously like Mikumo. Kenichi is not yet strong enough to beat the Elder, but at least he could hold back Ma in his attempt to, eh, challenged the new Mikumo to a contest of skill.

 

The Elder is now quite old too, and not as strong as before. Unlike Mikumo, he had focused on become strong, not staying young, believing that a person should die in his time so that the new generation can become truly strong. But then, there is not much need for a superhero like Garyu X anymore, for quite a while now.

 

In the backdrop of that peaceful world is a crisis that might cannot resolve, the crisis of food shortage... It was quietly solved by a bioengineered wonder called "Bio Meat", a criter that can eat any organic waste, and metabolise it into edible, tasty meat. Kenichi always feels a bit weird about this, but Miu loves the stuff. After all $50c / pound meat is almost as good as having gold shoes.

 

Bio Meat is a horror manga. It may not be your thing, but let's just say when you create perfect eaters, it only take some natural disaster and human errors for them to get out and start eating everything. And then the Americans see the sheer economic value of such a criter, and proceeded to... create one that grows even faster, eats even more of everything, and is even harder to kill...

 

Such is the brave new world of the future... and this time, Ryozanpaku finds itself dealing with a threat on the global scale, an outbreak of Bio Meat that has spread unchecked across several countries, helped partly by the effort to keep silence about the true nature and existence of Bio Meat. Miu switches to eating tofu almost immediately after... despite the detriment that low protein intake has on their training schedule.

[Delirium Trigger]

I'm considering to do quite a few things, such as the awaited China Arc, which Kenichi, Natsu, Renka, and....whoever as our main characters (main disciples at least). Master MCs are Kensei Ma and Sogetsu Ma (albeit he may show up later, depending on how I bring Natsu into the scenario). There will be quite a few recurring characters like Li Raichi and Li Tenmon, the Santoryu Team, etc. Possible show ups include Chou Enshin and his Master, Ryou Ma, and Kensei's Wife??? The main antagonist is the Black Tiger White Dragon...maybe. There will be some elements similar to the manga Kenji, and of course OCs. If I'm crazy enough and able to actually draw (like Matsuena none the less), I may even try to draw the whole thing out. *Boisterous laugh to death and beyond*

 

 

Another thing I'll work on is the growth of Siegfried and how he'll become a great master in the future, as I believe among the SA, Sieg has the highest potential to become a legendary master, should he focus on martial arts more.

 

 

I may also do a few crossovers between HSDK and other fictional universes. Hermit in Gotham scenarios commence!

 

 

Edit 1: The Nanken Team will also be be in the China Arc. So will Miu, Ryu Genson, and Koan Shokatsu.

Genres of China Arc: Action, comedy, (I doubt I could pull off ecchi visually), everything HSDK has, except maybe romance.

Edited by Delirium Trigger, January 11 2015 - 12:23 AM.

[Nacchi]

Nothing as great as the ideas suggested so far, but more of a fun side story:

 

I want Natsu to encounter Honoka's father (and Sebastian). From his comments he made in volume 51 when Honoka said she was going to visit "Nacchi" I think that might turn out great.

 

Maybe one day Kenichi is sick at home and Tanimoto happens to have class duty at that time, which means he has to visit his home and tell Kenichi about the contents of the classes he missed. At first everything goes well and Mototsugu goes along great with the nice young man who is a friend of his son's. But then Honoka comes home and is very friedly with him, way more friendly than a girl should be to her brother's classmates. Natsu desperately tries to downplay it and hide that he is that omnious "Nacchi" who is on Mototsugu's hit list. Hilarity ensues and it gets even worse when Honoka's father finds out the truth.

[Delirium Trigger]

You ship them, don't you, @Nacchi....? *glare cause Hermit Life* jk...

 

 

I had an old idea about the adventures if Hongo Akira post-Yami, considering to send him back to the nation he once destroyed along with Mihai and build it back up someway. Upon his arrival, they attempt to arrest him, in complete fear of his prowess, but terrified of taking that last step. He goes willingly, and prepares for whatever judgement he faces in trial. Out of the blue, the woman he saved appears to speak in his defense, and somehow convinces the judge(s) to reconsider killing. Hongo speaks out to state his business for being her: help bring back this nation to its rightful place. No, he will not fall in love with the woman he saved.

 

 

I'm doing a similar thing with Hermit called Vagrant Nights, a collection of Yomi missions leading up to the all out war, daily life as Prince Tanimoto, the hell he calls training, random shorts (find my gourd, brat! *pst* It's inside a mafia warehouse) duos, trios, quartets and other partner ups, finding out more about his past, a bunch of fighting, the Kuremisago, side stories that may add up or be a part of the China Arc, funny moments of him and the Shinpaku Alliance, meeting other masters (and fighting some of the lower spectrum), deep conversations with Ryo Pack masters, visiting his foster mother...etc. 

 

 

 

So many plans, inability to see them through...

[Delirium Trigger]

To continue off with the Vagrant Night's, I'll post a few tidbits on where I got my ideas from or why I wanted to do this.

 

• The title comes from Chapter 352 "Tanimoto Natsu" where Nijima describes the then unknown tenth master of Yami's OSNF as a vagrant. 
• This was supposed to be where I killed Hermit off in a rp verse that I'm in because I'm not feeling like I do him justice anymore.
• Another reason is to train him mentally and physically to be able to contend with other characters in the multiverse I'm in.
• Also to try to recruit more HSDK rpers.
• 90% of the ideas up there was not in my mind when I originally planned for this.
• In my original plan, the training, while beneficial, was also supposed to disorient him to have him "die" in an "anti-climatic" fashion.
• While Hermit is the central character, most likely there will be times where he isn't the focus, or even showing up in the Nights.
• I don't exactly ship characters, especially when Hermit is in the equation, but if I still follow some of the elements in my old rp, there may be some NatsuXRenka (Long-story short: Our Miu and Kenichi pushed them together like a nuclear fusion after Kenichi witnessed them together. I'll explain in further detail if anyone wants to hear how the hell this ever happened) or maybe NatsuXCastor cause those fanarts are hilarious to me to think that can happen and a friend of mine saying they ship them.... And Honatsu....ugh... sure, I suppose.
• I'lll try to make at least 108 chapters/nights because arc number.
• Timeline? A branch from Hermit's debut in Yami to end of Kenichi, possibly.

Suggestions are welcomed. Especially from martial artists. This and China Arc will be my main focus. I'll try to draw them out if I get the skill and feel for it.

 

 

The first post will be called Vagrant Nights (Day one) which mirrors the events of Chap 352, though not entirely.

Edited by Delirium Trigger, January 11 2015 - 10:26 PM.

[Delirium Trigger]

Another add-on: despite that I am an antishipper majority of the time, I support Yinlin Chou and Hermit. Yes, they haven't met, as far as we know, but I often picture her falling for him because of his princely charms...though Natsu wouldn't give a damn.

[Nacchi]

@Delirium Trigger Actually I'm not sure if I ship them or if I prefer a brother/sister kind of relationship for them. It kind of depends on my mood.

But you don't need to ship them for that story and I think it would be even funnier when Natsu and Honoka have only a sibling kind of relationship.

His little darling daughter spends lots of time alone at this "Nacchi" guy's home, she said something about "dates" and then this sneaky bastard, who happens to be rather good-looking, dares to come into his home under the guise of being his son's friend. That should be enought for trigger-happy Mototsugu to get his shotgun and open teenage boy hunting season. And no promise that everything is completely harmless shall convince him, after all pretty boys are wolves in sheep's clothing, every single one of them without any exception.

 

You "Vagrant Nights" sound great and I would love to read them. Too bad that I'm such a terrible writer and have no idea how rpgs work.

But yes, I would like to hear your theory about Natsu and Renka. The thing with Yinlin sound interesting, too.

 

 

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Another story: The crown prince of Tidat and his sister plan an official state visit to Japan. They somehow manage to talk both Sakaki and Hongō into playing body guards for Lona, because they fear someone might target her (terrorists, assasins, consponator, etc. pick whatever fits best).

Hongō and Sakaki have now to deal with each other, the people who are after Lona, the fact that Hongō is still a wanted criminal while they have to work together with the government/whoever is responsible for important visitors, and Lona's heavy teenage crush on Hongō. Poor Hongō has no interest at all in a little girl, but she's extremely clingy (almost like Rimi) and her pushynes doesn't go well with his shyness.

Edited by Nacchi, January 12 2015 - 12:05 PM.

[Combatmaster1o3]

@Delirium Trigger Actually I'm not sure if I ship them or if I prefer a brother/sister kind of relationship for them. It kind of depends on my mood.

But you don't need to ship them for that story and I think it would be even funnier when Natsu and Honoka have only a sibling kind of relationship.

His little darling daughter spends lots of time alone at this "Nacchi" guy's home, she said something about "dates" and then this sneaky bastard, who happens to be rather good-looking, dares to come into his home under the guise of being his son's friend. That should be enought for trigger-happy Mototsugu to get his shotgun and open teenage boy hunting season. And no promise that everything is completely harmless shall convince him, after all pretty boys are wolves in sheep's clothing, every single one of them without any exception.

 

You "Vagrant Nights" sound great and I would love to read them. Too bad that I'm such a terrible writer and have no idea how rpgs work.

But yes, I would like to hear your theory about Natsu and Renka. The thing with Yinlin sound interesting, too.

 

 

*******

Another story: The crown prince of Tidat and his sister plan an official state visit to Japan. They somehow manage to talk both Sakaki and Hongō into playing body guards for Lona, because they fear someone might target her (terrorists, assasins, consponator, etc. pick whatever fits best).

Hongō and Sakaki have now to deal with each other, the people who are after Lona, the fact that Hongō is still a wanted criminal while they have to work together with the government/whoever is responsible for important visitors, and Lona's heavy teenage crush on Hongō. Poor Hongō has no interest at all in a little girl, but she's extremely clingy (almost like Rimi) and her pushynes doesn't go well with his shyness.

Hongo... with the government.... you do realize that he is still with yami right? I would rather have it be more like as a guest/iou kinda thing with more than just Hongo and Sakaki(I did not say they cannot escort Lona or that Hongo stays alone with her ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ).

[Nacchi]

Hongo... with the government.... you do realize that he is still with yami right? I would rather have it be more like as a guest/iou kinda thing with more than just Hongo and Sakaki(I did not say they cannot escort Lona or that Hongo stays alone with her ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ).

I wrote that he is still a wanted criminal and that this might cause trouble for them, but Lona insisted on haven both of them - especially Hongō - as her bodyguards. (But is he still with Yami? I thought most of the OSNF broke away from that organization.)

[Combatmaster1o3]

I wrote that he is still a wanted criminal and that this might cause trouble for them, but Lona insisted on haven both of them - especially Hongō - as her bodyguards. (But is he still with Yami? I thought most of the OSNF broke away from that organization.)

They were always a part of yami we they not? It just that they act separately (mostly) and would use yami's recourses to get there way. To be fair we don't have a comprehensive idea of what yami is.

[Delirium Trigger]

That was something I questioned, too. Whether or not the mastered who rebelled against Yami actually left Yami. I think Hongō is the most likely to leave though, based on his last appearance.

You'll get better with practice. I'm still an amateur at it. You don't have to be a super-detailed role-player where I rp.

[Nacchi]

Yes, I don't see any reason for him to stay with Yami. The Eternal Sunset plan was a terrible disaster, he doesn't seem to be particularly close to any of the other OSNF, he also seems to be well off so he doesn't need their money, and he might still blame them for Shō's death.

Not counting Saiga, he seems to be the one Satsujinken master who is closest to Katsujinken. I wonder, if Hajime Suzuki had never showed up, would the whole election for the next member of Yami have turned out different. If Hajime hadn't pushed him I think he might have declined their offer back then if it meant he had to kill his friend/rival. Or, because Hajime never brought them closer, Sakaki might not have hesitated to fight Hongō. It's kind of interesting to think about the possibilities and maybe it could turn into an AU story.
1) Both decline and decide for Katsujinken and continue their journey together.
2) Sakaki honors his master's wish and becomes one of the OSNF. Hongō in turn chooses Katsujinken and ends up at Ryōzanpaku. Or, if not a member of Ryōzanpaku, he might be one of their allies.

Edited by Nacchi, January 15 2015 - 01:04 PM.

[citizen_lion]

I like the idea of Sasaki being an OSNF member who does not kill. That would make the "party line" even more blurry, because there is now Saiga who kills only when utterly necessary, and Sasaki who absolutely does not kill. These two people are in ideology members of RZ, but because of practicality and/or disagreements in operational methods cannot be in RZ. Complex and subtle.

 

The one thing that really makes me sad about HSDK is the utter waste of a character's potential that is Jenazad. There is something very complex and tragic about him that makes me want to see him going out a different way, perhaps in a blaze of redemption rather than being killed by Hongo.

 

I half expected after Jihan took his corpse that he did not die yet, but secretly recovered and then, at the very final scene, joined the Elder in the epic missile-stop. Then as the missile exploded, he kicked the Elder out because he knew that the Elder, being who he is, would never jump out by himself. Then as Jenazad is swallowed by the light before his body gets blown to bit, he shouted one last thing to the Elder.

 

"I know it's selfish of me, but let me be the hero again, old friend."

Edited by citizen_lion, January 19 2015 - 12:59 PM.

[Combatmaster1o3]

I like the idea of Sasaki being an OSNF member who does not kill. That would make the "party line" even more blurry, because there is now Saiga who kills only when utterly necessary, and Sasaki who absolutely does not kill. These two people are in ideology members of RZ, but because of practicality and/or disagreements in operational methods cannot be in RZ. Complex and subtle.

 

The one thing that really makes me sad about HSDK is the utter waste of a character's potential that is Jenazad. There is something very complex and tragic about him that makes me want to see him going out a different way, perhaps in a blaze of redemption rather than being killed by Hongo.

 

I half expected after Jihan took his corpse that he did not die yet, but secretly recovered and then, at the very final scene, joined the Elder in the epic missile-stop. Then as the missile exploded, he kicked the Elder out because he knew that the Elder, being who he is, would never jump out by himself. Then as Jenazad is swallowed by the light before his body gets blown to bit, he shouted one last thing to the Elder.

 

"I know it's selfish of me, but let me be the hero again, old friend."

At the end, hsdk is full of wasted character potential due to its rushed and poorly paced ending. The art did make up for it.

At the end, hsdk is full of wasted character potential due to its rushed and poorly paced ending. The art did make up for it.

Just a little sad about the waste of potential.

[Nacchi]

I was actually quite okay with how it ended for Jenazad. He was way to gone to be able to return to a more sane way of living and thinking. An I feel like it might have taken from Hongou's victory if Jenazad had survived. Generally I prefer dead characters to stay dead and am not a fan of those "Ha, you thought I was dead?" plot twists.

 

To be honest, I was a bit disappointed when the Elder made it after the missile had blown up. I would have been a good way to go for him.

 

 

Maybe another fic idea: The Elder dies during the final fight when he stops the missile. Akisame is the new head of Ryouzanpaku.

[Combatmaster1o3]

I was actually quite okay with how it ended for Jenazad. He was way to gone to be able to return to a more sane way of living and thinking. An I feel like it might have taken from Hongou's victory if Jenazad had survived. Generally I prefer dead characters to stay dead and am not a fan of those "Ha, you thought I was dead?" plot twists.

 

To be honest, I was a bit disappointed when the Elder made it after the missile had blown up. I would have been a good way to go for him.

 

 

Maybe another fic idea: The Elder dies during the final fight when he stops the missile. Akisame is the new head of Ryouzanpaku.

I think, after it happened, that it was a futile attempt to add tension. Whether Elder will survive or not. The thing is we found that its ok fo rhim to go like that.

[Nacchi]

Random stupid idea: Kenichi wrote another novel based on his life at Ryouzanpaku. Of course he changes things a bit here and there; after all this is a work of fiction and all similarities to real people are purely incidental. *cough*

His new novel becomes a great succeess, but for some reason Sakaki is not happy that he was turned into a magical girl in that story.

Edited by Nacchi, January 26 2015 - 01:14 PM.

[Combatmaster1o3]

Random stupid idea: Kenichi wrote another novel based on his life at Ryouzanpaku. Of course he changes things a bit here and there; after all this is a work of fiction and all similarities to real people are purely incidental. *cough*

His new novel becomes a great succeess, but for some reason Sakaki is not happy that he was turned into a magical girl in that story.

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[Berrick]

I got an idea (based off of Nacchi's idea). Kenichi creates an novel, about his and his friend's adventures. Switches some things around. Hermit has a bigger role. Why is a mystery at first, until it's revealed that his novel is becoming a movie. Kenichi now a seasoned writer knows what is likely to be a hit and what isn't. Nijima knew it would become a movie, so he told Kenichi to change things around a bit. Kenichi decided to make Hermit's role bigger because he's a charismatic actor, and a highly skilled martial artists. Hermit becomes the next big action star.