So who do you think would win between Jihan and Sho if they fought again?
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Andrew
Posted October 02 2017 - 04:32 AM
Kano would rekt Jihan without much effort his siilat skills was very unimpressive, I dont see how Jihan gonna deal against Kano great skill,speed, and versality. Kenichi only won against Kano because 100% plot and superoverpowered Rusui Seikukuken level 3 that only work properly on Kano thats it. Kano glass canon? thats huge assumption, SeiDou Goitsu rekt his body much more than anything else. My opinion Kano would win against any disciple except Kenichi and Kajima.
Berrick
Posted October 03 2017 - 02:54 AM
Kano would rekt Jihan without much effort his siilat skills was very unimpressive, I dont see how Jihan gonna deal against Kano great skill,speed, and versality. Kenichi only won against Kano because 100% plot and superoverpowered Rusui Seikukuken level 3 that only work properly on Kano thats it. Kano glass canon? thats huge assumption, SeiDou Goitsu rekt his body much more than anything else. My opinion Kano would win against any disciple except Kenichi and Kajima.
I actually think that almost all of the disciples can potentially fight Sho well, especially Lugh. Lugh can predict attacks really well, ahead of time, so it would be hard for sho to hit him. Also Lugh's specialty is the weakness of Sho's main fighting style, that weakness being grappling, if I recall correctly. Lugh can beat Sho. There's a couple other Yomi good at grappling, so they have a shot too. Takeda has Ryuusei Seikuken for defense and warp punch, plus auto rhythm for offense.
Berserker's offense is unpredictable and he can last a long time with berserker mode. Ryuuto used SeiDou Goui for what seems to be way longer than 30 seconds, unless him, Hermit and Berserker beat a master in 30 seconds and he has gungnir.
Andrew
Posted October 03 2017 - 09:33 AM
I actually think that almost all of the disciples can potentially fight Sho well, especially Lugh. Lugh can predict attacks really well, ahead of time, so it would be hard for sho to hit him. Also Lugh's specialty is the weakness of Sho's main fighting style, that weakness being grappling, if I recall correctly. Lugh can beat Sho. There's a couple other Yomi good at grappling, so they have a shot too. Takeda has Ryuusei Seikuken for defense and warp punch, plus auto rhythm for offense.
Berserker's offense is unpredictable and he can last a long time with berserker mode. Ryuuto used SeiDou Goui for what seems to be way longer than 30 seconds, unless him, Hermit and Berserker beat a master in 30 seconds and he has gungnirWe
We considering Kano and other disciples power level when Kano was alive? or Disciples power level when Kenichi fight Kadjima? because current disciples are Much More stronger than in the time Kano fight Kenchi, Disciples improving rapidly when manga goes, current disciples have great chanses to win against Kano when he fight Kenichi but if Kano stay alive like other disciples he will rapidly improving aswell we can only assume how strong he could be in current time but wiyhout doubt he would become very very strong still much stronger than others.Kecnichi already was Yomi level when he fight Boris, and they been pretty equal to each other and Kenichi even was winning that was before Kenichi fight Kano, differense in power between Kano and Boris was extremely huge that means in the time when Kano was alive he was much stronger than other disciples except maybe Kajima. Im not talking about just Rusui Seikuken im talking about Rusui Seikuken level 3 thats big differense you dont need to read oponent mind to use Rusui seikuken level 1,Kano dosent have weakness except his heart( to be honest that so ridiculous ) thats why Kenichi was able to use Rusui seikuken level 3 against him, to be honest thats only reason Kano lost and thats reason is exetremly ridiculous , the bettrer reason would be if Mr Matsuena just said "Kenichi won because hes main character thats it"
Berrick
Posted October 03 2017 - 08:31 PM
We considering Kano and other disciples power level when Kano was alive? or Disciples power level when Kenichi fight Kadjima? because current disciples are Much More stronger than in the time Kano fight Kenchi, Disciples improving rapidly when manga goes, current disciples have great chanses to win against Kano when he fight Kenichi but if Kano stay alive like other disciples he will rapidly improving aswell we can only assume how strong he could be in current time but wiyhout doubt he would become very very strong still much stronger than others.Kecnichi already was Yomi level when he fight Boris, and they been pretty equal to each other and Kenichi even was winning that was before Kenichi fight Kano, differense in power between Kano and Boris was extremely huge that means in the time when Kano was alive he was much stronger than other disciples except maybe Kajima. Im not talking about just Rusui Seikuken im talking about Rusui Seikuken level 3 thats big differense you dont need to read oponent mind to use Rusui seikuken level 1,Kano dosent have weakness except his heart( to be honest that so ridiculous ) thats why Kenichi was able to use Rusui seikuken level 3 against him, to be honest thats only reason Kano lost and thats reason is exetremly ridiculous , the bettrer reason would be if Mr Matsuena just said "Kenichi won because hes main character thats it"
Around the Kajima fight I guess, just assume that Sho lived and got stronger as well. How does Kenichi rivalling Boris the time they first fought and thus being much weaker than Sho, mean the other Yomi members were much weaker than Sho? Disciples can have growth spurts and plateaus, their growth speeding up or slowing down. That's part of the reason, I don't think Sho was necessarily stronger than all the other yomi disciples other than Kajima. Even if Sho was stronger than the other Yomi disciples it doesn't mean he was much stronger than all of them, or that Sho would win in a one on one fight with all of them or that they couldn't surpass him in the future.
Going through special hellish training regiments, or learning a specific, powerful technique can drastically increase level. Kenichi for instance, was much weaker than Ryuto before he learned Seikuken and after he learned it, he was able to beat Ryuto. Another example: Kenichi was a good deal weaker than Sho before learning Ryuusei Seikuken, afterwards he was able to beat Sho. Last example: Hermit was the 6th fist in Ragnarok and after his special training from hell he was able to beat the 2nd fist. The point is the other disciples can catchup to Sho depending on their training regiments and newly acquired techniques.
Why do feel that Sho getting beat by Ryuusei Seikuken was ridiculous? it's not that Sho heart was weak, it's that his heart was weaker than others. It makes sense considering he was so lonely and all (according to Kenichi). Kenichi was even able to use RS level 3 on Kajima and Kajima has one of the strongest hearts in Yomi.
Edited by ki0, October 03 2017 - 08:47 PM.
Andrew
Posted October 04 2017 - 08:42 AM
Around the Kajima fight I guess, just assume that Sho lived and got stronger as well. How does Kenichi rivalling Boris the time they first fought and thus being much weaker than Sho, mean the other Yomi members were much weaker than Sho? Disciples can have growth spurts and plateaus, their growth speeding up or slowing down. That's part of the reason, I don't think Sho was necessarily stronger than all the other yomi disciples other than Kajima. Even if Sho was stronger than the other Yomi disciples it doesn't mean he was much stronger than all of them, or that Sho would win in a one on one fight with all of them or that they couldn't surpass him in the future.
Going through special hellish training regiments, or learning a specific, powerful technique can drastically increase level. Kenichi for instance, was much weaker than Ryuto before he learned Seikuken and after he learned it, he was able to beat Ryuto. Another example: Kenichi was a good deal weaker than Sho before learning Ryuusei Seikuken, afterwards he was able to beat Sho. Last example: Hermit was the 6th fist in Ragnarok and after his special training from hell he was able to beat the 2nd fist. The point is the other disciples can catchup to Sho depending on their training regiments and newly acquired techniques.
Why do feel that Sho getting beat by Ryuusei Seikuken was ridiculous? it's not that Sho heart was weak, it's that his heart was weaker than others. It makes sense considering he was so lonely and all (according to Kenichi). Kenichi was even able to use RS level 3 on Kajima and Kajima has one of the strongest hearts in Yomi
Kano had Master class speed,Master class body and no doubt about his great skill,even back then he defeated half Shinpaku with little effort, could deal against Miu easily, he completely dominate against Kenichi 99% of the fight, I dont know we can debate forever but only Matsuena could answer for these questions, but I cannot lie to myself, Kenichi no way should win that fight,he wasnt ready for that fight not even close
