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[Baby Joe]

He's a pretty important character, so I think he deserves his own thread. Plus, he's my favorite OSNF member.

What we know about him:

• Elite Master Class martial artist
• Member of the One Shadow Nine Fists
• Able to use both Dou and Sei Ki.
• Able to teach mass amounts of people in a short period of time.
• Current Master of Ryuto, Rimi, Berserker, and Lugh.
• Was once a disciple of Ryozanpaku
• Master of Ancient Martial Arts.
• First person introduced that walked the Path of Asura
• Former master of Sho.
• Killed Tsutomu Tanaka's Master and is therefore hated by him.

If I'm missing anything that you think deserves to be on the list, please tell me.

It looks like Ogata is planning something. I dunno what exactly, but he's definitely up to something. I really hope he isn't disposed of this arc. What do you think he's planning on doing?

And why does he call himself "Kensei"? I sometimes get him and Kensei Ma confused.

Edited by Baby Joe, November 15 2012 - 05:50 PM.

[Saiga]

• Master of Ancient Martial Arts.
• First person introduced that walked the Path of Asura
• Former master of Sho.
• Killed Tsutomu Tanaka's Master and is therefore hated by him.

He gets called Kensei because it means "Saint" and he is the Saint Fist.

Ogata's plan, it seems, is to take out Ryozanpaku and the Shinpaku Alliance. I think that's a pretty terrible goal as there is no way he and Mikumo can take on Ryozanpaku.

[JoanAda]

what kinda interests me is what Elder told Tanaka lately, that he's became more like Ogata

I don't wanna see Oga-chan get locked up in jail ...

[Baby Joe]

• Master of Ancient Martial Arts.
• First person introduced that walked the Path of Asura
• Former master of Sho.
• Killed Tsutomu Tanaka's Master and is therefore hated by him.

He gets called Kensei because it means "Saint" and he is the Saint Fist.

Ogata's plan, it seems, is to take out Ryozanpaku and the Shinpaku Alliance. I think that's a pretty terrible goal as there is no way he and Mikumo can take on Ryozanpaku.

If he takes them on one at a time he might be able to. Or if he builds an army of elite martial artists he can overwhelm them.

Or there's a very very slight chance that he'll be ridiculously overpowered.

Of course there's no way he'll succeed. I'm just sayin' there are options.

what kinda interests me is what Elder told Tanaka lately, that he's became more like Ogata

I don't wanna see Oga-chan get locked up in jail ...

Tanaka's gonna go off the deep end one of these days. And this will be Ogata's face:

Spoiler

Ogata won't be locked up. He's too badass and cunning. Only people like Alexander and Diego get locked up. If Hongo and Aggard can escape capture, so can Ogata.

Which reminds me. How did Hongo and Aggard not end up in the Big Lock again?

[JoanAda]

I agree Oga is just to cool for this
Well I think they let Hongo go, after all he did help to save Miu and he killed Jenazad. Elder had other things on his mind, and Sakaki probably wouldnt bother
As for Aagard, I think he was deported before they could do anything XD

[Baby Joe]

I just reread the bear scene:

Spoiler

And I'm wondering when we'll see this crazy side of Ogata again. Maybe if Tanaka tries to fight him?

[Saiga]

I remembered Ogata being really nice to Kenichi, but I don't remember him doing all that cool stuff to the bear.

Tanaka vs Ogata is going to be so awesome.

[Red Duel]

I remembered Ogata being really nice to Kenichi, but I don't remember him doing all that cool stuff to the bear.

Tanaka vs Ogata is going to be so awesome.

I second that.

[Baby Joe]

Eh...I dunno. Tanaka's still an expert if not a low master class fighter now. Ogata's still leagues above him. I see Tanaka ending up like that bear.

[Saiga]

Really depends how far Tanaka has come since he demolished Kenichi. I think he'll surprise everyone, but I already have confidence in him.

[Baby Joe]

I can't see Tanaka going from Expert to Elite Master Class in such a short time. How long has it been? A few months?

Ogata's gonna break him. Tanaka might pull some move on Ogata, but Ogata's gonna break him.

[Baby Joe]

Does anyone have an idea of who Ogata was talking about here:

Spoiler

I think he was talking about either the Elder or Saiga.

[Saiga]

After reading that, I was thinking Saiga as well.

[Rimi]

I was thinking the Elder.

[Mizume Hatashi]

Does anyone have an idea of who Ogata was talking about here:

Spoiler

I think he was talking about either the Elder or Saiga.

That Scene makes me feel like Ogata is most likely gonna fight Akisame but after Tanaka gets his shot at Ogata(Possibly Akisame comes in before Ogata kills Tanaka) ;o

[Saiga]

I was thinking the Elder.

Knowing what we know now, I don't think he was talking about elder.

I think Akisame and Saiga are extremely alike. The only major difference between them might be their fighting styles even.

Ogata would definitely know elder's presence, he might be a little iffy on Saiga's since he is so secret, mistaking Akisame for him.

[Rimi]

Thing is though I don't know of Saiga was even a planned character at that stage. Additionally he'd have no reason to be there. Literally no reason at all.

[Saiga]

He was more than likely planned. He is one of the main character's father and not long after this, yami and Yomi became known entities.

I could probably think of a couple bullshit reasons why he would have a reason to be there.

Ogata wouldn't mistake his former master's presence for someone else's. I'd say Elder was the farthest from his mind. Ogata wouldn't have been able to dodge him and he knows it.

[Baby Joe]

Thing is though I don't know of Saiga was even a planned character at that stage. Additionally he'd have no reason to be there. Literally no reason at all.

Saiga was probably planned at this point. The name YOMI appeared before the Kenichi and Ryuto fight. And Ogata mentions Yami to Hayato at the end of the fight.

Saiga was a member of the Ryozanpaku. I gotta find the pages where it's stated, though. Ogata was probably banished from Ryozanpaku before Saiga left. Ogata wouldn't have known that Saiga wasn't a part of Ryozanpaku anymore if he left earlier.

[Baby Joe]

I found something interesting:

Spoiler

Here it implies that the Elder is the one that Ogata despises the most. Why do you think he hates him so much? Was this ever explained?