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What are your predictions for the amusement park fights?


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Poll: Amusement Park Arc (9 member(s) have cast votes)

Siegfried vs Hermit

  1. Sieg (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. Hermit (5 votes [55.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 55.56%

  3. Tie (1 votes [11.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.11%

  4. Fight will be interrupted/alternate resolution (3 votes [33.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

Kenichi vs Berserker

  1. Kenichi (6 votes [66.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 66.67%

  2. Berserker (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. Tie (1 votes [11.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.11%

  4. Fight will be interrupted/alternate resolution (2 votes [22.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 22.22%

Freya vs Odin

  1. Freya (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. Odin (1 votes [11.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.11%

  3. Tie (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. Fight will be interrupted/alternate resolution (8 votes [88.89%])

    Percentage of vote: 88.89%

Kisara/Shiratori vs Chikage

  1. Kisara/Shiratori (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. Chikage (5 votes [55.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 55.56%

  3. Tie (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. Fight will be interrupted/alternate resolution (4 votes [44.44%])

    Percentage of vote: 44.44%

Takeda vs Lugh

  1. Takeda (6 votes [66.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 66.67%

  2. Lugh (1 votes [11.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.11%

  3. Tie (2 votes [22.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 22.22%

  4. Fight will be interrupted/alternate resolution (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

Miu vs. Rimi

  1. Miu (6 votes [66.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 66.67%

  2. Rimi (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. Tie (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. Fight will be interrupted/alternate resolution (3 votes [33.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

Renka vs. Rachel

  1. Renka (7 votes [77.78%])

    Percentage of vote: 77.78%

  2. Rachel (1 votes [11.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.11%

  3. Tie (1 votes [11.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.11%

  4. Fight will be interrupted/alternate resolution (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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Rimi

Posted November 17 2012 - 10:27 PM

Alright so I thought this would be a good discussion for us to have while we eagerly await the 500th chapter (!!) of History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi. What a milestone.

First of all let me just say that I have high expectations of Matsuena for the 500th chapter. He has done plenty of building up in the last 10 or so chapters for these matchups. Leading up to this has been over a hundred chapters of buildup for Chikage and her relationship with the Shinpaku Alliance. The entire series has followed the development of Hermit. Rimi has been training to fight Miu and has a strong desire to annihilate her and Takeda's rivalry with Lugh was rushed through just for this moment. If the fights don't turn out simply amazing then you will never see an end to my ranting. Never.

So first of all we need to keep in mind that there has been a lot of foreshadowing of a death. Ogata wants someone to be killed and Natsu has stated that the target is the Shinpaku Alliance. I personally think that Matsuena does not have the guts to kill off any character especially considering that all of these people are involved are kids. The victim will be a kid and the murderer will be a kid. I don't expect this to happen at all. What I expect is someone on the verge of death and Kenichi saving them because that is what he swore to Natsu. Regardless though, if Matsuena has the courage to push the series this far then as of chapter 500 I believe we'll be looking at a much "darker" manga here.

As for the specific fights, I don't know what to think of Kenichi vs. Berserker or Seigfried vs. Hermit. That last fight seems pretty filler and I really think it'll end up being a fight just to see who is stronger and will end with a draw. Kenichi vs. Berserker will only reveal how far Berserker will come and I predict that the fight will end early or Kenichi will just run away from Berserker in order to protect the others. In Chikage's fight I think that Ukita will interrupt it because of his undying fate in Chikage OR he will replace Kisara in the fight against Chikage. Regardless though, if the fight happens then Chikage will win hands down, however, I stand by the fight being interrupted. As for Odin and Freya, I agree with the theory that Odin will not fight and will instead talk to Freya about what he wanted to tell Kenichi.

Where the real action in this arc (which I now dub the amusement park arc and I refuse to accept your opinions stating otherwise) will be is in the Miu vs. Rimi and Takeda vs. Lugh fights. Both Rimi and Miu have gotten some huge power ups recently and theirs will be a battle of speed. I predict that Miu will lose control and instead of Rimi killing Miu, Miu will be the one to almost kill Rimi in this fight. That's when Kenichi comes in to save her or perhaps Tanaka (recall that he is there!). Takeda vs. Lugh though is a fight that will have to happen and nothing should interrupt this one. Takeda will get decimated and I give the win to Lugh.

Now, what if Matsuena mans up, breaks stereotypes, and kills a character. Who will die? I think that's a discussion worth having. Will a character die? No, Kenichi will save them guaranteed. However, who will be the one that almost dies and is the one that Kenichi ends up saving. I believe we have only three options here. The first, obvious one, is Takeda. We don't know enough about Lugh yet, but we do know that he vastly overpowers Takeda and that he, more than likely, has the least problem amongst the YOMI with killing someone. Next on the list is Ukita. Lots of chapters have been about him recently and he is the absolute weakest of the group. Will YOMI go for the weakest first? Possibly. And if he is to interrupt the Chikage fight then Chikage can take him down in one hit and while I believe that she doesn't have the heart to do it, if Matsuena mans up then this is a likely scenario. My last prediction is Kisara. Kisara also can not put up a fight against Chikage in my opinion and she makes an easy target. In fact, if Kenichi ends up preoccupied with Berserker he would try to save Kisara, but Ukita would be the one who ends up trying to save Kisara from Chikage and ends up getting heavily injured (dying?) in the process.

So, have I overhyped this arc too much? I don't think so. I definitely have high expectations with all these match ups though I seem to have written off all of them except Miu vs. Rimi and Takeda vs. Lugh. Those two fights are what all the recent buildup has centered around and it's what I expect the focus to me.

Also I just want to say congratulations to Matsuena on getting to chapter 500. This manga is amazing, its got a great story, and even though the fanservice has gotten excessive lately I don't think I could ever put it down. I also love it because I got to meet a lot of amazing people through this site. I wish I could tell Matsuena that he's done a great job and give him my thanks somehow. Maybe I'll tweet him. Anyway congratulations on 500 chapters and I'm looking forward to how the series continues to play out. :)

Saiga

Posted November 17 2012 - 10:53 PM

Sieg vs Natsu - Alternate resolution
Sieg has no idea Natsu is in YOMI. I don't know how this fight will come out. Maybe Natsu is really Shinpaku at heart and there won't be a fight at all. If there is a fight, I can't see Sieg taking him seriously. They were comrades in Ragnarok and in the SA. Either way it goes, I don't see a win, loss, or tie.

Kenichi vs Berserker - Kenichi win
This fight will show how much Kenichi and Berserker have both changed since back then. Kenichi will win, but not easily.

Freya vs Odin - Alternate resolution
I think this will be a simple information drop. Ryuto greeted her in a way that makes me think this.

Kisara/Shiratori vs Chikage - Alternate resolution
Enter Ukita. Harem talk utterly destroys the fight.

Takeda vs Lugh - Takeda win
Simply put, Takeda will win but lose an arm in the process.

Miu vs Rimi - Miu win
As much as I love Rimi, even after training she won't be able to handle Bulu. Not even close.

Renka vs Rachel - Renka win
Repeat of last battle. Renka wins. This will be our fan service fight.


500 chapters, huh. Quite a milestone. Dunno what I'd be doing right now if it wasn't for HSDK, so keep going for many more chapters ok?

Baby Joe

Posted November 18 2012 - 10:26 AM

Like I said in the other thread:

Ryuto will not fight Freya. Instead, he will talk to her. Plus, he'd stomp her if they fought.

Chikage will stomp Kisara and Shiratori.

Sieg will put up a good fight against Hermit, but ultimately fail.

Takeda will lose and suffer a terrible injury against Lugh. He hasn't had his secret boxing training yet.

Miu will defeat Rimi. :(

Renka defeats Rachel.

Kenichi will defeat Berserker.

I can also the entire Shinpaku Alliance getting defeated. That would really be something since it still seems too early for all these YOMI members to be defeated.

Haru Glory

Posted November 18 2012 - 10:45 AM

I see the fights easily getting interrupted by something or Tanaka stepping in to save someone.
Hopefully nobody dies but a serious injury i can see happening.

Cam

Posted November 18 2012 - 06:15 PM

I already told my detailed battle-predictions in the other thread, so I'll give you my possible death-predictions.

1. Thor - His character has the least investment compared to the other fighters in the Shinpaku alliance, and he could serve as a fallen hero for them. (the Valkyries aren't important enough to die yet)
2. Ukita - The other characters' investment in Ukita has been growing very quickly, and a fight that involves 3 girls important to him is pretty strong foreshadowing... And, if anyone were to interfere with a disciple's battle and kill their opponent, it would be Mikumo. Ukita's death would cause the highest amount of drama, with 4 girls all having a breakdown afterwards, and Takeda possibly departing from Kenichi's philosophy and vowing revenge.
3. Rimi - With everyone else occupied(except maybe Thor, like the first time they fought), Miu will have a disadvantage fighting the powered-up Rimi. She will then be forced into "kill-mode", and might not be able to stop herself without Kenichi's help. This would make Miu extremely regretful, and change the tone of the story. It could also make Ryuto furious, leading to him recovering out of sheer determination.

Edited by Cam, November 18 2012 - 06:15 PM.


miuken

Posted November 19 2012 - 03:03 AM

i think kenichi would not fight berserker, because kenichi want to find where miu is, but i think berserker will not allow that because he really want to fight kenichi.

for lugh and takeda, if takeda would win or not, he will still suffer from a serious injury like losing his left arm again.

rimi vs. miu, i think miu will lose control again of herself and she might not only kill rimi but also anyone who gets in her way, so it would be better for her to be with kenichi while fighting or i would better say that she must be with kenichi all the times until she can control her ki and the last thing might happen the elder or the other master of ryozanapku will stop the fight of miu before she lose control of herself but it has very low possibility that the elder and the other master of ryozanpaku will interrupt the fight of their disciple or it will not really happen.

if all of them will fight and no one will interfere, i think it will take time, like 2-3 months or more before the it will reach its conclusion...it just only my hypothesis.

Rimi

Posted November 19 2012 - 08:31 PM

Welcome to the forums miuken. :)

I forgot about the ryozanpaku members. Anyone think the elder stalked them?

Saiga

Posted November 19 2012 - 10:31 PM

I think it's a given that Elder is watching. I don't think he will show his face unless Ogata or Mikumo does, though. Considering the Shinpaku Alliance ended up being the only people left in the park, I think one of the two are definitely around. One of them had to throw some money at the management of the amusement park.

miuken

Posted November 20 2012 - 03:51 AM

i think some will be finished quickly because of match up, because some of the shinpaku rengou don't stand a chance against yomi, i wish this arc will end soon, because its to early to fight the yomi and need more training too.

it just come to my mind, what kind of ultimate techniques that kenichi will learn from elder, in order to beat the disciple of one shadow? will the elder will teach kenichi the fuurinji style? what kind of training that miu will face in order to control her ki? when will kenichi face the disciple of one shadow?

just getting excited of what will happen


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