HSDK Battle 523 Released
May 24 2013 08:37 AM | Rimi in Kenichi News
History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi Battle 523 has been released by MangaPanda. The pure martial artist! Battle 523 is titled "Unstoppable".











22 Comments
InjuredPelican
May 24 2013 09:01 AM
That was a good chapter. Nice to see a protaganist that doesn't always have an amazing, stirring speech ready. There are times when a person can't say anything. I actually can't quite predict how this will end. I think Ogata will live, but will Tanaka die? Will the masters intervene in time? If they do, won't Tanaka just continue to seek revenge? Maybe this needs to resolve itself here. Some tough issues, I think.
Haru Glory
May 24 2013 09:35 AM
hmmm
an interesting chapter not much to really say this time
Rimi
May 24 2013 09:42 AM
I don't feel like anything actually happened in this chapter...all that was really there was Ogata having a better kazoe nukite. Oh well. The fight is over after the next chapter. Wonder what happens next?
Good point. I kind of overlooked that. It certainly is nice to see a protagonist who can't say anything in the situation. Or maybe matsuena saw us complaining about Kenichi blabbing on and on.
I also like how Kenichi can't hate Ogata.
Darkwing_Duck
May 24 2013 09:54 AM
Baby Joe
May 24 2013 10:58 AM
Oh, Miu...
I really liked this chapter. For a second, I thought Ogata was using Seidou Gouitsu at some point. I liked the two paged spread with Ogata and his "mad killer" comment.
Tanaka ripped off his shirt! It reminded me of the time Ryuto did that back in the Final Clash arc.
It really looks like Ogata's going to win this fight and I hope Matsuena won't mess it up. None of the other OSNF are as interesting to me as Ogata. Plus, we need to see him use Seidou Gouitsu. I can't wait for the conlclusion.
eson
May 24 2013 12:06 PM
@Rimi That's cause nothing really happened in the chapter except for like one fighting move. The rest was mentioned last chapter.
Though I will say that I was kind of disappointed that Kenichi would need to have the whole thing about the wife and kid explained. I thought he was smart enough to figure things like that out, but I guess he had to be dumbed down for the dramatic effect of the "big reveal".
Saiga
May 24 2013 02:04 PM
I guess the chapter was OK. I mean, now we know it's going to end next chapter so we have something nice to look forward to.
Having the fact that his wife and child were killed was spelled out kind of ruins it, IMO. It would have been better off left for us to figure out on our own (which, come on, wasn't hard at all).
All in all, looking forward to next week. I dunno what it meant by "majestic ending." I guess I could see either Tanaka or Ogata dying with grace or something. Or maybe the terrible translators couldn't think of a better word.
Darkwing_Duck
May 24 2013 02:12 PM
Rimi
May 24 2013 02:32 PM
Is it admiration? I saw it kind of like a respect for his immersion in martial arts. Like he was in awe of it.
Eh...I guess that's admiration.
Saiga
May 24 2013 02:46 PM
Since Kenichi can't seem to truly hate Ogata no matter what, it'll be interesting seeing his reaction to the outcome.
I mean, he respects him as a martial artist, so it's a real mystery how he'll act towards Ogata if Tanaka loses and dies and vice-versa.
Baby Joe
May 24 2013 02:55 PM
That's an editor note to hype people up for the next chapter.
Well, he has always admired Ogata. The whole Miu thing was the first time he's ever really lashed out at him.
Darkwing_Duck
May 24 2013 04:10 PM
eson
May 24 2013 10:12 PM
Except he's not really close to Kenichi.
ChaiMan3000
May 24 2013 11:07 PM
I'm not sure if either Ogata or Tanaka will die, but if I had to pick I might actually say Ogata would die. I think Kenichi's a little bit closer to him than to Tanaka. But then again, if Tanaka kills Ogata, then are they going to say that Tanaka's satsujinken now? I guess we'll find out. Now won't we?
Darkwing_Duck
May 25 2013 09:47 AM
Kenichi really looks up to tanaka thou because tanaka is where kenichi wants to be. Tanaka was able to become a great martial artist and was able to win the heart of his masters daughter. Both of which Kenichi is trying to obtain. Up til now kenichi has been under the impression tanaka has been living this happy life with wife and child only to find out it was all a fantasy in tanakas mind. Tanaka for whatever reason wasnt able to protect his wife and he lost her. This will hit closer to kenichi than anyone because of his strong feelings for Miu and his determination to always protect her.
Baby Joe
May 25 2013 12:41 PM
But, if Ogata dies, Ryuto and Berserker will be left without a master.
Saiga
May 25 2013 12:47 PM
I would say considering Ogata was hoping Ryuto or Berserker would kill him (well, that's kind of a blanket generalization. He would like for one of his disciples to kill him.) and never said Ryuto wasn't ready or something to that effect when he attacked Ogata, I think they're both pretty much good enough to not need a master anymore. Berserker never really needed one anyway.
Baby Joe
May 25 2013 01:33 PM
I don't think so. If they don't need a master anymore, that would make them experts. It would be weird having two experts in YOMI, Yami's disciple group. Ogata did say that Ryuto wasn't strong enough to fight him, and even though Berserker uses his own style, he still needs a master to give him training methods.
citizen_lion
May 25 2013 07:15 PM
I wonder why Mangapanda's scans look very "soft" and less detailed compared to the one in mangastream or mangainn. Don't get me wrong, I love mangapanda's sheer speed and also their quality of translation (they seem to translate the meaning instead of the literal words), but I like the look of the other scans better.
As for this chapter though, I'm a bit proud of Ken for growing up quite a bit to realize where idealism alone isn't enough, and to also see the grey shades of morality clearer.
Also I really wish they could show exactly what these two master had changed in kazoe nukite and explained why Kensei won. All I really saw was that Kensei was physically stronger and his kazoe nukite would have gone right through Tanaka if he didn't jump up (and got thrown back). Seriously, if they simply said that that Kensei was physically stronger, I would have been satisfied.
But I don't think it was the case, but something else. It also looked to me like Tanaka hesitated at the last moment and jump, and if he did not jump, his "curved" final thrust might have connected first. Now if the explanation was "he flinched", it would have really bring back the old depth that this manga had in the beginning.
Baby Joe
May 26 2013 08:49 AM
@citizen_lion Mangainn updated their site with Mangastream's translation. They were using Mangapanda's translation eariler. Although, I thought Mangainn and Mangapanda were the same group since both sites were being credited at some point. Plus, the layout of the site is the same as Mangapanda and Mangareader.
I guess the lower quality of Mangapanda's scans has to do with them rushing to get it out or maybe how they're going about cleaning them.
Darkwing_Duck
May 26 2013 09:32 PM
citizen_lion
May 28 2013 04:43 PM
Yea, I find that mangapanda seems to translate the "big picture" meaning, and then mangastream translates closer to the letter. The two translations complement each other.
Plus the mangastream scans are crisper, so you can discern the actions a bit more.
From the the mangastream scan I have to say I think that Tanaka lost the kazoe nukite duel because of indecision. The first 4 thrusts were dead equal, so the theory that Kensei are much stronger physically doesn't hold water. Even if Kensei were a bit more muscular, it won't be enough for his final trust to literally spin Tanaka's whole body around his arm.
But if we look at the expressions of Kensei and Tanaka during the last thrust, we can see that Kensei was calm and resolute, while Tanaka's expression was one of emotional conflict. I think at the last moment when the two thrusts hit home and began to draw blood, Tanaka jumped instead of following through.
This was what Kensei commented as "his resolve is still too weak".