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[Nacchi]

That's the thing though, is his personality even that much different? I mean even Ogata was saving kids like how he saved Tanimoto,Lugh,Ryuto,Rimi and even tried to save Kenichi from Ryuto until he got stopped by Ryo masters.

So obviously he is not as bad as people making him out to be except the whole him being ok with Kushinadas plan of nuking Japan. But yeah, Ogata seems like a cool guy, kind of like if you venture in the spectrum of evil, he would be the tip of the iceberg while a guy like Mihail is the bottom of the ocean.

To answer your question, I believe he can be considered an alternate to Ogata since Horosho can also have some "evil" in him due to his programming and so the other supporting characters have to be his moral guides and help him undo his violent tendencies that he acquired in Russian military.

I thinks it's less the good/evil thing and I didn't want to imply that Ogata doesn't have his good points, but more his general behaviour. Horosho seems to be rather naive, easily impressionable and very honest in a way that he always says what's on his mind. He's still very young after all. At several points he reminded me of a puppy. There are also points where he comes across as a bit insecure and lost and he doesn't seem to be the calculating type. Actually I think for all characters in HSDK Rimi is the one who's most similar to him character-wise.

 

I'm sure naiveté will get a bit better as he grows older, but I can't quite see him become as confidentor as goal-driven as Ogata is. Ogata has a certain atmosphere surrounding him (I don't know how to describe it) and it's rather different from the impression I have of Horosho.

Edited by Nacchi, December 24 2014 - 07:34 PM.

[Nacchi]

Chapter 6 - Valhalla no Mon
Originally published in Weekly Shonen Sunday R, August 30, 1996

While waiting for his father Kazuoki meets a little girls that seems to follow him around. Suddenly they are attacked by a strange thing coming from a wall. They are saved when that thing gets hit by a train. This is when Kazuoki's father shows up. He explains that because of some weird science experiment the little girl ended up with a portal to another world inside of her. This "Gate to Valhalla" is activated whenever she utters a sound, so she's not allowed to speak. The only way to free her from this curse is to open the gate once on purpose and close it again by making her feel a strong sense of rejection, but this method is very dangerous. His father leaves again and Kazuoki is stuck watching over the little girl. He finds out her name is Sara. He gives her a sketchbook so she can communicate with him and takes her home with him. AT his home she starts scribbling everywhere. When she finds his school report about dissecting a fringe she tears it apart, because she hates frogs.
The next days Sara follows Kazuoki to his school. He tells her to stay at the school nurse's office, but Sara goes searching for him and end up at the school laboratory. This places scares her so much that she screams and involuntarily opens the gate to Valhalla. At the last moment Kazuoki remember that Sara hates frogs and throws some at her to trigger strong feelings of rejection within her. It works and the gate closes again - this time forever. Sara is now freed from her curse and Kazuoki wonders if they are going expell him from school for what happened.

[Nacchi]

And that's it. WHat now follows is a short omake where Matsuena explains how this Gaiden book was compiled and how it got its name (+ some art drawn by other mangaka for this volume). He had to choose from a huge amount of stories he had drawn since his teen years. In the end they chose stories related to Kenichi that either feather Kenichi himself or stories where the charatcers have kind of served as models for Kenichi characters. That's why it was named "History's Strongest Side Stories" and not "Syun Matsuena Short Story Collection".
 
(Does that measn Horosho is Ogata after all? His story was published in 2003 and the first time Ogata shows up is in chapter 119, which is from late 2004. )
 
Now I really want to see all of his stories that he's hiding somewhere in his apartment. It doesn't matter that he thinks some of them are embarassing. I want to read them.

[Ogata]

This Horosho character is so interesting and it would be kind of cool if he was related to Ogata like he could have been a distant/half relative kind of how like Tekken characters Lars Alexanderson or Steve Fox are related to Mishima/Williams family even though in Steve's case he was conceived in a lab. (fyi, Steve is my idol and one of the reasons I started boxing and the reason I combed my hair!)

But yeah, Horosho aka Ogatas relative might have been part of a "Create a master for the army" project that got scrapped since they are too powerful to take control and so Ogata got the wind of it and knowing the possibilities of combining styles, he embarked on a journey to learn various martial arts styles in addition to learning different training methods in order to power up his body. After all, these masters are also master artist and all around super people who can learn and do so many things.

It would also be kind of cool to see a Tekken/Hsdk collaboration since they have similar abilities like how Heihachi could catch a bullet with his teeth or Kazuya can survive a fall or how Feng Wei can break a mountain with his fists and later Steve Fox becomes supersonic in later tekkens as well!


That being said, the story about little girl CREEPED me out really bad! I don't know why but yeah she kind of looks like little Miu.

[Nacchi]

@Ogata Someone please teach me how to draw like Mr. Matsuena so I can draw all the stories he didn't.

 

The Gate to Valhalla is really creepy. Matsuena's old art style makes it even creepier. I'm  glad he did not go into horror with Kenichi.