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HSDK Battle 579 Released


History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi Battle 579 has been released by MangaPanda. Kenichi and Kajima reveal something new! Battle 579 is titled, "A New Technique"


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oh yes, THAT would be so glorious. And what a perfect way to set up a time skip. Kenichi, when stripped of all of his psychological limiters, is actually already a master, and who will beat Kajima, who is "almost a master". THEN a 5 year time skip is set up showing Kenichi and Miu approaching the threshold of grandmaster, beginning a new manga.

 

we can only hope.

Then explain what happens to Saiga?

Then explain what happens to Saiga?

We can hope and pray that Saiga/Senzui can double KO/Kill each other so we can move on with better characters like Ogata, Ganosuke,Michael,Elder Wong ( Rival school of Kensei Mas phenoxi alliance)

Speaking of Kensei Ma, remember how it was mentioned that Kensei Rival school has branches in every province in china and each branch has a master who rivals a ryo master. From Shanghai, we were introduced to Elder Wong who looked like Santa Clause with Sharp Jagged teeth like Michael. He has yet to make a proper apearence...

We can hope and pray that Saiga/Senzui can double KO/Kill each other so we can move on with better characters like Ogata, Ganosuke,Michael,Elder Wong ( Rival school of Kensei Mas phenoxi alliance)
Speaking of Kensei Ma, remember how it was mentioned that Kensei Rival school has branches in every province in china and each branch has a master who rivals a ryo master. From Shanghai, we were introduced to Elder Wong who looked like Santa Clause with Sharp Jagged teeth like Michael. He has yet to make a proper apearence...


Tenmon is also a master that can rival a Ryo master in this context.

We can hope and pray that Saiga/Senzui can double KO/Kill each other so we can move on with better characters like Ogata, Ganosuke,Michael,Elder Wong ( Rival school of Kensei Mas phenoxi alliance)

Speaking of Kensei Ma, remember how it was mentioned that Kensei Rival school has branches in every province in china and each branch has a master who rivals a ryo master. From Shanghai, we were introduced to Elder Wong who looked like Santa Clause with Sharp Jagged teeth like Michael. He has yet to make a proper apearence...

 

I completely agree with Ogata on the subject of Saiga and Senzui. I haven't mentioned about them because I was also secretly hoping / praying, that they double kill each other. Such intensely lame characters being given disproportionally high power levels.

 

Ok, I have to admit Saiga himself isn't that lame. He's actually quite awesome. But to fulfill his awesomeness quota, he must be sacrificed as a tragic hero in front of Kenichi and Miu, to help these two brats grow some common sense, while simultaneously rid the HSDK-verse of the blackhole of lameness known as Senzui.

 

If Senzui is allowed to continue, then the whole story will collapse into insufferable boredom and banal motivation, a blackhole that no light, or good writing, can escape from.

 

So to atone for the sin of associating with Senzui in the past without killing his ass earlier, Saiga must sacrifice himself to kill him now.

 

And yes, I think it's about time we get a proper China / elsewhere in Asia arc, preferably with a new manga too (I so want to see Kenichi at the end of the sequel approaching the threshold of legendary, that would be my motivation for 10 more years)...

I completely agree with Ogata on the subject of Saiga and Senzui. I haven't mentioned about them because I was also secretly hoping / praying, that they double kill each other. Such intensely lame characters being given disproportionally high power levels.
 
Ok, I have to admit Saiga himself isn't that lame. He's actually quite awesome. But to fulfill his awesomeness quota, he must be sacrificed as a tragic hero in front of Kenichi and Miu, to help these two brats grow some common sense, while simultaneously rid the HSDK-verse of the blackhole of lameness known as Senzui.
 
If Senzui is allowed to continue, then the whole story will collapse into insufferable boredom and banal motivation, a blackhole that no light, or good writing, can escape from.

So to atone for the sin of associating with Senzui in the past without killing his ass earlier, Saiga must sacrifice himself to kill him now.
 
And yes, I think it's about time we get a proper China / elsewhere in Asia arc, preferably with a new manga too (I so want to see Kenichi at the end of the sequel approaching the threshold of legendary, that would be my motivation for 10 more years)...

I agree, the story and the plot have made no room for this heroic Saiga and lame as hell Senzui.
Saiga was meant to be a villian and nothing else unfortunately. I don't want them to double kill each other but I see no other way. Speaking of which, how well would another character go if s/he were to join ryozanpaku?

I agree, the story and the plot have made no room for this heroic Saiga and lame as hell Senzui. Saiga was meant to be a villian and nothing else unfortunately. I don't want them to double kill each other but I see no other way. Speaking of which, how well would another character go if s/he were to join ryozanpaku?

I think its pretty much impossible for another person to join Ryozanpaku, you will only see new faves when Kenichi takes over as a master class with

 

Kenichi

Miu

Takeda

Hermit

Berserker (or Siegfried)

Freya

 

New Ryozanpaku in the FUTURE~
 

I think its pretty much impossible for another person to join Ryozanpaku, you will only see new faves when Kenichi takes over as a master class with
 
Kenichi
Miu
Takeda
Hermit
Berserker (or Siegfried)
Freya
 
New Ryozanpaku in the FUTURE~


The thing is nobody can die in Ryozanpaku either. It just won't be the same. We need snapshots of a much older version of Ryozanpaku that no one talks about.

The thing is nobody can die in Ryozanpaku either. It just won't be the same. We need snapshots of a much older version of Ryozanpaku that no one talks about.

See thats what brings down the series a bit, it seems that Ryozanpaku are these gods that cant die, which I personally believe is a negative, and no matter how much I love all of them hoping for a Master to die to lead to better development, which made me want the Grandmaster Miu's grandpa to die, makes the most sense and change how everybody thinks. But the couple of times that could happen, Apachai gets ressurrected by Akisame, Ma hasnt faced anybody in which he has to give his all, and the same goes for the rest masters

See thats what brings down the series a bit, it seems that Ryozanpaku are these gods that cant die, which I personally believe is a negative, and no matter how much I love all of them hoping for a Master to die to lead to better development, which made me want the Grandmaster Miu's grandpa to die, makes the most sense and change how everybody thinks. But the couple of times that could happen, Apachai gets ressurrected by Akisame, Ma hasnt faced anybody in which he has to give his all, and the same goes for the rest masters

Yea. The thing is the youngest masters, Apachai and Shigure, will also just get stronger due to their gain in experience.
The same thing goes for everyone but maybe the elder.

I think people's growth plateau at the top of every level, unless they have a lot of will to break through, or there is some particular training methods.

 

I think that even though all of Ryo are in the mid to high grandmaster range, with Akisame and particularly Ma being very close to legendary already, they won't grow significantly in 5 years time.

 

I think the Elder has plateau'ed, or more precisely has reached the absolute pinnacle of physical potential in HSDK, and won't become any stronger. Ma and Akisame in 5 years will be roughly comparable to the Elder now, except with a little less experience, probably the same overall rank as Jenazad, Saiga, and Lord of Lame. Saiga and Sen... Lame Lord have probably plateau'ed already too. They are both legendaries, just less experienced than the Elder.

 

Hongo/Sasaki would be equivalent to Ma and Akisame now, while Apachai would be equivalent to Sasaki/Hongo now.

 

Shigure... well she may go toe to toe with Gannosuke in 5 years. This is due to her constant training and truly insane talent.

 

Ogata will be legendary too by that point, and might have accumulated the same level of experience as the likes of Ma Kensei or Silcardo Jenazad, so basically just slightly below the Elder, even in insights. His growth is due to constantly researching new methods to train.

 

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I can see all of Shinpaku and Yomi being at low master in 5 years already, with Kenichi, Miu, Ryuto, Berserker, and Hermit touching the boundary of "mid master". He would probably be exactly the same as how Tanaka was when he fought Ogata.

I think people's growth plateau at the top of every level, unless they have a lot of will to break through, or there is some particular training methods.

 

I think that even though all of Ryo are in the mid to high grandmaster range, with Akisame and particularly Ma being very close to legendary already, they won't grow significantly in 5 years time.

 

I think the Elder has plateau'ed, or more precisely has reached the absolute pinnacle of physical potential in HSDK, and won't become any stronger. Ma and Akisame in 5 years will be roughly comparable to the Elder now, except with a little less experience, probably the same overall rank as Jenazad, Saiga, and Lord of Lame. Saiga and Sen... Lame Lord have probably plateau'ed already too. They are both legendaries, just less experienced than the Elder.

 

Hongo/Sasaki would be equivalent to Ma and Akisame now, while Apachai would be equivalent to Sasaki/Hongo now.

 

Shigure... well she may go toe to toe with Gannosuke in 5 years. This is due to her constant training and truly insane talent.

 

Ogata will be legendary too by that point, and might have accumulated the same level of experience as the likes of Ma Kensei or Silcardo Jenazad, so basically just slightly below the Elder, even in insights. His growth is due to constantly researching new methods to train.

 

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I can see all of Shinpaku and Yomi being at low master in 5 years already, with Kenichi, Miu, Ryuto, Berserker, and Hermit touching the boundary of "mid master". He would probably be exactly the same as how Tanaka was when he fought Ogata.

While not being completely talentless, in a matter of of 3-4 years he went to grand master level.(Tanaka) Its more like due to their massive foundation building, people like Miu, Renka, and Kenichi can take out lesser masters. This also means they'll be propelled to a higher level when they breach Expert level, which they've already achieved in some ways.

I completely agree with Ogata on the subject of Saiga and Senzui. I haven't mentioned about them because I was also secretly hoping / praying, that they double kill each other. Such intensely lame characters being given disproportionally high power levels.

 

Ok, I have to admit Saiga himself isn't that lame. He's actually quite awesome. But to fulfill his awesomeness quota, he must be sacrificed as a tragic hero in front of Kenichi and Miu, to help these two brats grow some common sense, while simultaneously rid the HSDK-verse of the blackhole of lameness known as Senzui.

 

If Senzui is allowed to continue, then the whole story will collapse into insufferable boredom and banal motivation, a blackhole that no light, or good writing, can escape from.

 

So to atone for the sin of associating with Senzui in the past without killing his ass earlier, Saiga must sacrifice himself to kill him now.

 

And yes, I think it's about time we get a proper China / elsewhere in Asia arc, preferably with a new manga too (I so want to see Kenichi at the end of the sequel approaching the threshold of legendary, that would be my motivation for 10 more years)...

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A part of me loves Saiga but then again, I hate how an awesome characters like Saiga (as well as Michael) have been placed in such a crappy roles! I personaly like Saiga because he reminds me of Lars from Tekken and both have awesome mixed styles of martial arts.


As far as Senzui goes, I seriously can't take his character seriously due to the fact that his GIANT forehead reminds me of:

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I think people's growth plateau at the top of every level, unless they have a lot of will to break through, or there is some particular training methods.

 

I think that even though all of Ryo are in the mid to high grandmaster range, with Akisame and particularly Ma being very close to legendary already, they won't grow significantly in 5 years time.

 

I think the Elder has plateau'ed, or more precisely has reached the absolute pinnacle of physical potential in HSDK, and won't become any stronger. Ma and Akisame in 5 years will be roughly comparable to the Elder now, except with a little less experience, probably the same overall rank as Jenazad, Saiga, and Lord of Lame. Saiga and Sen... Lame Lord have probably plateau'ed already too. They are both legendaries, just less experienced than the Elder.

 

Hongo/Sasaki would be equivalent to Ma and Akisame now, while Apachai would be equivalent to Sasaki/Hongo now.

 

Shigure... well she may go toe to toe with Gannosuke in 5 years. This is due to her constant training and truly insane talent.

 

Ogata will be legendary too by that point, and might have accumulated the same level of experience as the likes of Ma Kensei or Silcardo Jenazad, so basically just slightly below the Elder, even in insights. His growth is due to constantly researching new methods to train.

 

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I can see all of Shinpaku and Yomi being at low master in 5 years already, with Kenichi, Miu, Ryuto, Berserker, and Hermit touching the boundary of "mid master". He would probably be exactly the same as how Tanaka was when he fought Ogata.

I would love to see Ogata at his base form reach a legendary master and THEN activate his Sei-Dou!!! I mean, I was under the impression that Ogata was around Agaard,Hongo,Rahman,Diego,Alexes level in his base form and if thats how strong he is...then imagine a legendary master Ogata activiating his Sei-Dou!!!

I am curios to know how strong Kushinada was when she was Shigures age! She is like 4 or 5 generations older than her!

I would love to see Ogata at his base form reach a legendary master and THEN activate his Sei-Dou!!! I mean, I was under the impression that Ogata was around Agaard,Hongo,Rahman,Diego,Alexes level in his base form and if thats how strong he is...then imagine a legendary master Ogata activiating his Sei-Dou!!!
I am curios to know how strong Kushinada was when she was Shigures age! She is like 4 or 5 generations older than her!

The thing is that maybe it's possible. The separation between legendary masters and Grand... basically every level of master comes down to physique and skill. Jenazad wasn't THAT much different from Hongo, who stood 0% chance vs disguised Senzui. It also maybe that I don't know, the Elder held back(a lot) while fighting Jenazad. I don't think that gap can be easily breached. However Ogata, who I think looks at martial art the same as the Hayoto(or his clan) did, can breach that gap with time. Same with the Ryo masters because they train with each other, you know have so someone pick you up. Also the fact that they do have the Elder.


Also hypothesis about Furinji clan, could that be the old Ryozanpaku?

The thing is that maybe it's possible. The separation between legendary masters and Grand... basically every level of master comes down to physique and skill. Jenazad wasn't THAT much different from Hongo, who stood 0% chance vs disguised Senzui. It also maybe that I don't know, the Elder held back(a lot) while fighting Jenazad. I don't think that gap can be easily breached. However Ogata, who I think looks at martial art the same as the Hayoto(or his clan) did, can breach that gap with time. Same with the Ryo masters because they train with each other, you know have so someone pick you up. Also the fact that they do have the Elder. Also hypothesis about Furinji clan, could that be the old Ryozanpaku?

 

Actually, I still think that Jenazad is actually stronger than Senzui and Saiga, just too bored in his age to put out a serious effort and use tactics anymore, and is in the same class as the Elder and Gannosuke. The proof of that is only Jenazad, throughout the whole manga, were compared feat by feat with the Elder (pool split kick, avalanche shout, wipe out people's memory, project killing intent in vast distances and still able to affect a grandmaster, etc.), until Gannosuke appears.

 

In the fight with Jenazad he literally tried his best to hold back while provoking Hongo constantly to help him bring out his best, while Senzui used a luck-vs-luck attack on Hongo, while Hongo was trying to protect Nijima. Senzui used the same strategy Hongo used, and was just lucky that Hongo chose wrong and he chose right. He admitted this himself, http://www.mangahere...v45/c571/9.html. We must take into account the fact that Hongo used the "guess my intention" attack on Senzui from a very long distance, while he used it on Jenazad literally right in front of his face, and even then only succeeded the second time.

 

The gap of physical difference between Jenazad and Hongo became absurd when Jenazad decided to go serious, like being able to move so fast that Hongo simply could not react, or even see anything (Sasaki too) while being hit 5 times. Hongo grabbed Jenazad's finger with his fist, only for Jenazad to yank back with one finger and broke ALL of Hongo's fingers.

 

That is a true legendary class underestimating a high grandmaster too much, and finally paid for it by letting him use the "guess my intention" attack twice, at point-blank range. Senzui vs. Hongo, I don't think the gap was actually as large. If Hongo went all out he might have held on for a lot longer.

 

About legendary Ogata with sei dou... Ya that would be the true final boss, for sure.

 

The hypothesis about the Furinji clan being the old Ryo is a good and sensible one. If the Furinji clan was an actual clan, there would have been more members of it than just the Elder. The Furinji "clan" seems to have only one surviving heir per generation, which is absurd by any standards. So one explanation that makes sense is that there was originally no such clan. The original members of the Furinji "clan" were friends, not family.

Honestly we need more manga to really know anything.

GUYS WERE HAVING ANOTHER WITHDRAWAL! 

GUYS WERE HAVING ANOTHER WITHDRAWAL! 


My facial expression as of this moment:

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Nightmare scenario. The next chapter is ENTIRELY about the Saiga and Senzui fight... and then Senzui wins.

Nightmare scenario. The next chapter is ENTIRELY about the Saiga and Senzui fight... and then Senzui wins.

Omg no. Just no. Actually now I want that double kill.

Nightmare scenario. The next chapter is ENTIRELY about the Saiga and Senzui fight... and then Senzui wins.

Who then decides to abduct Miu and train her as his own disciple, because Kajima kicked the bucket during his fight with Kenichi. What follows is a 50 chapters long Miu abduction arc 2, because it was so much fun the first time.

Who then decides to abduct Miu and train her as his own disciple, because Kajima kicked the bucket during his fight with Kenichi. What follows is a 50 chapters long Miu abduction arc 2, because it was so much fun the first time.

He actualy didn't! Almost all manga sites missed the last page which ends with Kajima opening a hole through Kenichis stomach:
http://readms.com/r/hsdk/579/2496/20
 

He actualy didn't! Almost all manga sites missed the last page which ends with Kajima opening a hole through Kenichis stomach:
http://readms.com/r/hsdk/579/2496/20
 

I know he didn't (yet), but I wanted to continue citizen_lion's worst case scenario for the next chapter.

Nightmare scenario. The next chapter is ENTIRELY about the Saiga and Senzui fight... and then Senzui wins.

 

Or, or, or, it can be about Hayato's journey towards the "Battlefield of Gods". 

 

Another nightmare can be a sudden Mikumo flashback. That would be so damn weird.

Or, or, or, it can be about Hayato's journey towards the "Battlefield of Gods". 

 

Another nightmare can be a sudden Mikumo flashback. That would be so damn weird.

How are those nightmares? Those are just prob story to keep us entertained while Matsuya figures out what to do.

Hayato's journey would definitely not be considered a nightmare. Especially if he has to go through several grand-master classes to get there.

 

 

Mikumo's back story wouldn't be bad, but a weird thing to focus on in the current situation. I'm sure if Syun does it still, it will be nice.

 

 

This withdrawal is getting to me. What's going on this time?