HSDK Battle 578 Released

Or just Mangaka's error.

Where's that damned chapter!!!?

I don't think there will be a chapter this week because of the double issue thing.

What double issue thing!?? Whats going on!!!??? Goddamn! I get a hsdk withdrawl EVERYTIME that there are weeks with no new chapter!!!

 

From what I understand, a double issue is where they have the same issue of a magazine on sale for two weeks instead of one.

That's unexpected...

I'm also getting withdrawal Arrrggg!

The fact that Jenazad was still standing at all meant that his spine had not been shattered, only damaged. But he certainly had lost most lower body mobility. He may be able to make one last stumbling step forward with the amount of nervous control left, and for a legendary master, one stumbling step using just one toe would probably propel his body 5m forward, covering the distance between him and Hongo. He only needed Hongo to be distracted for a split second by Miu to close the distance. A hit in that position wouldn't impair his upper body that much, and he would still be able to launch one or two more strikes that are beyond the vision (let alone the dodge speed) of a grandmaster.

Thats true, he also changed stance. Maybe Hongo aimed for his organs and not his spine, maybe do to bone density? It could be that Hongo had damaged his spine but his thrust rolled off. So while a normal persons movement would be extremely limited, Jenazad's legs were powerfull enough to take him to the severely damaged Hongo who may or may not have died.

I understand that rigor mortis kicks in faster if the body has been exercising, which leads to people standing when they've died.  I'm not sure if its still possible if the spine has received critical damage, but it might be possible if the musculature is intact?  

Well, absurd that it may be, it was still boss.

I understand that rigor mortis kicks in faster if the body has been exercising, which leads to people standing when they've died.  I'm not sure if its still possible if the spine has received critical damage, but it might be possible if the musculature is intact?  

 

Well, absurd that it may be, it was still boss.

The thing is it doesn't matter if his musculature wasn't 100% or even 1%, they are powerfull enough to keep him still. Also its not like he took a cannon to the chest, its more like 4-5 inch gap(Still huge). Actually that sounds like a cannon to the chest...

On other news, I personally would like them to go back with the Mighty 3 fighting the Master class, but thats my biased opinion I wonder why

 

No matter how you look at the situation, there is way to many things not answered in Kenichi for it to end on this arc, if it really did end I would be high dissapointed!!

 

On other news, I personally would like them to go back with the Mighty 3 fighting the Master class, but thats my biased opinion I wonder why

 

I have been waiting for your response ever since the unarmed yomis were fighting the hachiou disciples! I loved how Berserker went in head first and caught the arrow with his mouth while stopped that wakizashi from Hyougo all at the same time.

I can't help feel that, Berserker fights so much like Hayato Furinji!

Infact, I could see Shougo Kitsukawa combining Berserker mode+Sei-Dou would probably bump him up as having a master class body. He IS good enough to fight and beat  masters like Raki,Shigure,Mildred,marmaduke if they were to not have their weapons. I say this since, being female+being weapon user=Bad deal in hsdk universe while Ogata just went BEAST MODE with his Sei-Dou!!!

Btw, does anyone feel that Kensei Ma might perhaps be the second strongest Ryo master???? I mean, dude beat two female masters like it was nothing+ I remember him beating Sougetsu Ma and Diego with relative ease and was able to hold is own the best of all Ryo masters fighting Kushinada.


 

Sei Dou Berserkered Berserker would probably be master class entirely on his own, I agree.

And yes, Kensei Ma is probably the strongest Ryo master, and very close to being legendary, or perhaps IS a legendary himself if he ever decides to go serious.

Evidence:

Against Diego: he literally took zero damage. None of Diego's attack did anything at all. At the very end, even his clothes were still mostly clean... And we learned that he held back the whole way through, while being able to break off the fight to save a falling Raichi (in a speed feat that was similar to how Hayato saved Kenichi after being hit by Hongou)

Against Sougetsu Ma: he took a full on hit from Sougetsu without any defense or preparation, and that caused almost no damage, then he one-shoted Sougetsu (and THAT, as we later learned, was STILL holding back)

He kept up with Kushinada while being attacked by 3 other weapon masters, and his only goal was to grope her, and her goal was to kill him...

And of course the recent feat of binding Raki and Mildred in 2 consecutive panels, breaking all of their weapons too.

And yes, Kensei had never ever gotten truly serious... or perhaps he has the similar personality of Kenichi, which is an inability to get serious (unless, say, one other Ryo master dies)

Sei Dou Berserkered Berserker would probably be master class entirely on his own, I agree.

 

And yes, Kensei Ma is probably the strongest Ryo master, and very close to being legendary, or perhaps IS a legendary himself if he ever decides to go serious.

 

Evidence:

 

Against Diego: he literally took zero damage. None of Diego's attack did anything at all. At the very end, even his clothes were still mostly clean... And we learned that he held back the whole way through, while being able to break off the fight to save a falling Raichi (in a speed feat that was similar to how Hayato saved Kenichi after being hit by Hongou)

 

Against Sougetsu Ma: he took a full on hit from Sougetsu without any defense or preparation, and that caused almost no damage, then he one-shoted Sougetsu (and THAT, as we later learned, was STILL holding back)

 

He kept up with Kushinada while being attacked by 3 other weapon masters, and his only goal was to grope her, and her goal was to kill him...

 

And of course the recent feat of binding Raki and Mildred in 2 consecutive panels, breaking all of their weapons too.

 

And yes, Kensei had never ever gotten truly serious... or perhaps he has the similar personality of Kenichi, which is an inability to get serious (unless, say, one other Ryo master dies)

The strange thing is I find nothing wrong with that statement. Just imagine Jenazad vs Kensei.

I have been waiting for your response ever since the unarmed yomis were fighting the hachiou disciples! I loved how Berserker went in head first and caught the arrow with his mouth while stopped that wakizashi from Hyougo all at the same time.

I can't help feel that, Berserker fights so much like Hayato Furinji!

Infact, I could see Shougo Kitsukawa combining Berserker mode+Sei-Dou would probably bump him up as having a master class body. He IS good enough to fight and beat  masters like Raki,Shigure,Mildred,marmaduke if they were to not have their weapons. I say this since, being female+being weapon user=Bad deal in hsdk universe while Ogata just went BEAST MODE with his Sei-Dou!!!
 

Masters can be divided by many things but the most prominent of them is physique, and that is a huge barrier between classes. This goes to reaction time, muscle strength, endurance, ect. This is what separates Fortuna from Hayoto, just imagine if Fortuna had the same physical abilities as Hayoto. Another thing is skill. Masters have both of these, and in great amounts. Now if you say someone with lots of skill(yet not a master) and lots of physical prowess(Yet not a master) with buffs become a master, absolutely he would be terrifying to disciple class opponents. Against a Grand master berserker will be powned. Say against Shigure,who breaks bullet proof helmets with her fists, vs Beserker. She 's faster, stronger, and FAR more skill full. Also this is presumed that she doesn't have unarmed techniques, except most weapon fightning styles would have unarmed techniques. Beserker stands no chance.   

Sei Dou Berserkered Berserker would probably be master class entirely on his own, I agree.

 

And yes, Kensei Ma is probably the strongest Ryo master, and very close to being legendary, or perhaps IS a legendary himself if he ever decides to go serious.

 

Evidence:

 

Against Diego: he literally took zero damage. None of Diego's attack did anything at all. At the very end, even his clothes were still mostly clean... And we learned that he held back the whole way through, while being able to break off the fight to save a falling Raichi (in a speed feat that was similar to how Hayato saved Kenichi after being hit by Hongou)

 

Against Sougetsu Ma: he took a full on hit from Sougetsu without any defense or preparation, and that caused almost no damage, then he one-shoted Sougetsu (and THAT, as we later learned, was STILL holding back)

 

He kept up with Kushinada while being attacked by 3 other weapon masters, and his only goal was to grope her, and her goal was to kill him...

 

And of course the recent feat of binding Raki and Mildred in 2 consecutive panels, breaking all of their weapons too.

 

And yes, Kensei had never ever gotten truly serious... or perhaps he has the similar personality of Kenichi, which is an inability to get serious (unless, say, one other Ryo master dies)

I have always thought that Kensei Ma was the second strongest as well! Another thing to note is that, he beat Akisame in a rock paper scissor by changing his reaction time and patterns so he could fight the female weapon masters and so if he could change his reaction time and habits or make someone accustomed to his movement and then change it on the go, then he can overcome someone as power as him!

Speaking of groping Kushinada and hareassing Shigure/Miu, doesn't this guy have a wife or something???

Btw: How strong would Berserker be with his Berserker mode/Sei-Dou combo??? Would he be good enough to fight againts a weaponless Shigure by himself?
 

The strange thing is I find nothing wrong with that statement. Just imagine Jenazad vs Kensei.

 

 

Masters can be divided by many things but the most prominent of them is physique, and that is a huge barrier between classes. This goes to reaction time, muscle strength, endurance, ect. This is what separates Fortuna from Hayoto, just imagine if Fortuna had the same physical abilities as Hayoto. Another thing is skill. Masters have both of these, and in great amounts. Now if you say someone with lots of skill(yet not a master) and lots of physical prowess(Yet not a master) with buffs become a master, absolutely he would be terrifying to disciple class opponents. Against a Grand master berserker will be powned. Say against Shigure,who breaks bullet proof helmets with her fists, vs Beserker. She 's faster, stronger, and FAR more skill full. Also this is presumed that she doesn't have unarmed techniques, except most weapon fightning styles would have unarmed techniques. Beserker stands no chance.   

Yeah but I mean, breaking a bullet proof helmet shoulden't be something that disciple fighters can't do I would think. I mean Sho Kano has shown that he could break walls or Kajima made his debut breaking through the wall similar to how Michael kicked the wall to get to the communicatons room.

Honestly, I had high hopes for weapon users, I thought this was the arc that was going to show them that they are bad mofos but I was wrong. Besides, we still don't know if Rin Tachibana,Shigure,Michael,Marmaduke have as strong as bodies as Kajima who has worked on his durability like a mad man.

Lastly, I would like to think that, Ogata Isshinsai is a waaaaaaaaaaaaay better teacher than Hachirobe Kousaka and we know that Berserker is working on his endurance/durability since he is doing martial arts excercises for a good portion of his training. So he should have an advantage over a weaponless Rin Tachibana,Marmaduke,Michael and Shigure. Infact Shigure would be the toughest since she trains with ryo masters but a Berserker+Sei-Dou Berserker should be able to handle them for a bit.

 

Yeah but I mean, breaking a bullet proof helmet shoulden't be something that disciple fighters can't do I would think. I mean Sho Kano has shown that he could break walls or Kajima made his debut breaking through the wall similar to how Michael kicked the wall to get to the communicatons room.

Honestly, I had high hopes for weapon users, I thought this was the arc that was going to show them that they are bad mofos but I was wrong. Besides, we still don't know if Rin Tachibana,Shigure,Michael,Marmaduke have as strong as bodies as Kajima who has worked on his durability like a mad man.

Lastly, I would like to think that, Ogata Isshinsai is a waaaaaaaaaaaaay better teacher than Hachirobe Kousaka and we know that Berserker is working on his endurance/durability since he is doing martial arts excercises for a good portion of his training. So he should have an advantage over a weaponless Rin Tachibana,Marmaduke,Michael and Shigure. Infact Shigure would be the toughest since she trains with ryo masters but a Berserker+Sei-Dou Berserker should be able to handle them for a bit.

To be fair, we don't know the specs for the weapon users in general. We have a rough understanding at best of Shigure. BUT what we do have is the scale of a master and all the masters pass that. However the disciples(cause there disciples) don't pass that level.This is why Kajima was so shocking, his kick was pushed to the strength of a master with those seals.  Their endurance doesn't matter, its comparing apples to oranges but they have their roots.

To be fair, we don't know the specs for the weapon users in general. We have a rough understanding at best of Shigure. BUT what we do have is the scale of a master and all the masters pass that. However the disciples(cause there disciples) don't pass that level.This is why Kajima was so shocking, his kick was pushed to the strength of a master with those seals.  Their endurance doesn't matter, its comparing apples to oranges but they have their roots.

Well we kind of do have a spec on weapon users since when Sakaki fought spear of the core. It was said that, an unarmed fighter must be 3 times stronger physicaly to be on equal grounds againts a weapon masters.

So lets say if Shigure without weapons is 3 times weaker and Berserker,Ryuto and Kajima are 3 times stronger with their respective Berserker,Sei-Dou,Seal moves. Then woulden't it mean that there is gonna be a drastic fluctuations in strength and power???

Blieve me, I remember being on weaponless Shigures side againts her going up againts Yomi. But seeing how Ogata can bump himself up to Legendary Master with his Sei-Dou and lets be honest here, Kitsukawa, is calm which makes him a canidate for Sei-Dou and he has the Berserker mode as well would probably make him few times stronger than his base form. While Rin Tachibana,Marmaduke,Michael and Shigure would be 3 times weaker without their weapons but what up about without their armours???

Well we kind of do have a spec on weapon users since when Sakaki fought spear of the core. It was said that, an unarmed fighter must be 3 times stronger physicaly to be on equal grounds againts a weapon masters.

So lets say if Shigure without weapons is 3 times weaker and Berserker,Ryuto and Kajima are 3 times stronger with their respective Berserker,Sei-Dou,Seal moves. Then woulden't it mean that there is gonna be a drastic fluctuations in strength and power???

Blieve me, I remember being on weaponless Shigures side againts her going up againts Yomi. But seeing how Ogata can bump himself up to Legendary Master with his Sei-Dou and lets be honest here, Kitsukawa, is calm which makes him a canidate for Sei-Dou and he has the Berserker mode as well would probably make him few times stronger than his base form. While Rin Tachibana,Marmaduke,Michael and Shigure would be 3 times weaker without their weapons but what up about without their armours???

In the same sense that Miu is calm. Right.

In the same sense that Miu is calm. Right.

Not in the same sense, Miu brings lots of emotions in to fights because she fights for moral reasons. Berserker fights due to the fact that he enjoys the nature of a fight+ he likes to be creative and comes up with new moves.
 

Not in the same sense, Miu brings lots of emotions in to fights because she fights for moral reasons. Berserker fights due to the fact that he enjoys the nature of a fight+ he likes to be creative and comes up with new moves.
 

Im talking about before she unleashed her dou ki

In a sense, but Miu just doesnt fight for the enjoyment unlike Berserker AKA next SUper Sayain, she has a deep sense of responsibility to protect the people she loves, with the added pressure of being a Furinji

In other news, I throw my chips into the category stating that Ma might be an increadible master, but I personally believe Akisame with all his accomplishments, mastered mind and techniques is the second strongest master of the group

Other then that with the fact that Berserker already basically mastered the Dou, and pretty good with the Sei, it seems hes already reaching his limit as a Disciple I mean come on his Master has been proven to be one of the best mentors teaching an already endless pool of potential known as Berserker, combine all this with Berserker not even depending on his Berkerker mode anymore, shit be crazy when he busts that move out again to anybody!